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dumainedogs

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Have you considered walking at night? I don't know what your situation is as far as neighborhood/suburban/city/etc. But, since it has been so hot this summer, the only time to walk Obie is late at night or early in the morning. I find we are much less likely to encounter other people/dogs and of course.. the questions, at night.
 

BLCOLE

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Angela;791257 Yes said:
I have developed a retort for the "who's taking who for a walk" ones. I tell them that Vinnie knows what he has to get done (ie pee or poop) so I let him choose the most efficient place to get this done...
 

Cascadians

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I used to be very friendly and enthusiastic about explaining things to ppl, but these days I have a lot of trouble breathing and talking. If I try to talk often I throw up so not really able to respond to a lot of the comments. So I become a "deaf person" so I won't hurl on anybody, or if I'm able to talk just say, "Yes it's a bear." Not being mean, just trying to make it thru the day.

The comments threads are therapeutic because Orka elicits a never-ending stream of comments, especially questions about his nose. When I can't talk I just squeak "Oink."
 

lacey9875

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I haven't used the prong collar, but in our puppy class there was a border collie that just wasn't going to 'get it', so the instructor brought in a prong collar (the owners looked horrified) but when they were shown how safe it is and it doesn't hurt (the instructor put it on the arm of the owner to show how it worked), they tried it and were very impressed and continued to use it.

Our trainer did the same thing-at 10 months something in Maggie short circuited and her goal in life was to drag me everywhere. It's also about safety-hers and mine. I know now she'll stop before she pulls us into the path of a car, and not knock me airborne and pull me 15 feet.

One piece of advice; if your kids want to see how it feels, tell them to put it on their leg while wearing something thick, and NOT try to put it over their head, getting it stuck in their very long, thick hair. I speak from experience. :crazy:
 

newflizzie

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I, too, have used the prong in the past on my dobie, ridgeback, and retriever mix. I would never use it on a basenji. I'm considering putting it on Liz in certain situations where she is acting like a 10 month old and I don't want "to become the cart". :)

As for the comments, most of the time I find it funny so I just smile and let it go. I'm lucky in most comments are just how pretty she is and then a guess to the breed. Heck, I think the guesses are funny cuz I know there are a whole lot of breeds out there that I would have to guess at. :) I sure hope you are feeling better soon.
 

NessaM

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Not everyone is ignorant. Some people on this board resort to calling other people stupid, ignorant etc..
Just because they don't know what a Newf is or maybe guess a different breed or make comments we have heard 1000 times and weren't funny the first time doesn't make them dumb or beneath us..
Most are just trying to be nice or social, cut them a break. Look at it from their side, bite your tongue and be nice.

Hagrid, my post is not directed solely at you and if it was just your post I would have blown it off, but it seems this last month there have been so many posts where people are calling other people on the street names or saying how stupid they are or their dog is. Those people are just as good as us and love their dogs just as much as we do.
Maybe because I live in a small town, but people are nice to each other here and if someone makes a comment that would normally just make me roll my eyes, I have manners, am polite and stop while they pet my Newfs and learn about them.
I would never be a smartalec, mean, or act like I am better than them or call their little dog (if they have one, lots of posts lately have been solely to complain about people and their little dog) names. It makes the people doing the name calling look bad and shows no class...Why be so mean when you don't know them, what they are going through in life or what kind of person they are?
Just smile and be nice, what's the big deal about that??
Kelly, since I've been the author of at least one of the posts you referenced, I'm going to reply to your statement.

I don't think ANY of us has ever been mean, or called anyone's dog a name, during the interactions we have with these people. That would be churlish. Even when someone's small, out-of-control dog attacks my dog, (which happens, I'm sorry to say, rather frequently), I'm polite. I have even said things like, "Please make sure your leash is tight, my guy here can intimidate smaller dogs just because he's so big, and they might feel they need to protect you from him," in an attempt to prevent Pook from getting yet another bloody nose. I take it on Pooka instead of pointing out that their dog is not within their control because, as you say, we never know what a person has gone through, or is going through.

It is a HUGE pet peeve of mine that so many small dog owners do not bother to take their small dogs to classes, or socialize them, because they are small enough to be manhandled. I think all dogs should learn how to control THEMSELVES. Obviously this isn't the case for all small dogs, and all small dog owners, but the overwhelming majority of ill-behaved, poorly-socialized, out-of-control dogs that I have interacted with since we first brought Nanook home four years ago have been small. I think I have every right to be upset when my dog, who was lying very politely in a down/stay at the vets', minding his own business, suddenly has a bleeding nose, AGAIN, because a small dog owner wandered past paying no attention to their pet, ignored my request to tighten up their lead; and I wasn't able to get up off the bench, over my dog who was lying on my feet, and in between him and the small dog before the small dog lunged and bit. And if, after two dozen or so of these encounters, I should have formed a prejudice against the sort of owners who treat their pets as ornaments, and don't bother to train them - well I'll own up to it. I don't like those people at all. But I am STILL polite to them.

I have never once refused to let someone pet my dog - I go out of my way to make people feel comfortable with them - Nanook even has his own business cards with answers to the most common questions people ask us printed on the back! And I smile and laugh every time someone repeats one of the phrases we've all now heard ad nauseum. Because yes, that's the polite thing to do, and I'm sure we all know how to behave like adults in public.

Both of my guys are therapy dogs, and we visit frequently with all sorts of people. If I couldn't be a good ambassador for the breed, that work wouldn't be possible.

With all that said, I consider it a relief to come onto this forum and vent, and commiserate, over the frustrating giant-dog experiences that we are ALL, quite obviously, sharing.
 

Sheila B.

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First of all, I'm so sorry for your pain. In time it will lessen, but now while you're still suffering I'm glad you have a big dog to hug. :hugs: It truly helps. Despite what we have all encountered and heard from people about our dogs, just remember your dog is special and oh so lucky that at the end of the day he is going home with YOU! :hugs:
 

JackandKelly

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Nessa,
I have *almost* nothing to say to your post above. If you feel the need to explain your post like you did , good for you. I am not going to even read through it, but I did skim the first paragraph. I am not someone you are going to get to argue with you, if someone doesn't agree with me...so be it, it doesn't matter to me.


I have issues with small dogs when I walk my Newfs, but I also have issues with big dogs when I walk my dachshunds. The biggest offender with the dachshunds is actually a therapy Newf in town.
There are two sides to this issue.

All of that is beside the point, it doesn't matter if you do or don't like small dogs or big dogs for that matter my post had nothing to do with that.
Venting is great, name calling is in poor taste.
I don't see how anyone can argue any part of that statement.
I stand by my post. People need to be nice to each other and there is no need for name calling in person or on the forum, plain and simple.


I have gotten more than 2 dozen PM's thanking me for posting that comment besides the kudos publicly on FB. It needed to be said.

Oh and BTW, the original poster changed her post. She DID say she had resorted to smarta** comments. So the first sentence of your response "I don't think ANY of us has ever been mean" must have been written because you did not see the original post and what it contained
 
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Erika

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I always correct the folks and tell them its a newf or Pyr and then ask if they have a computer.if they say yes I say look up the breeds.they are very fascinating. Wait till they read about the drool and stuff.lol...but maybe it will spark one heart to rescue a newf or pyr too.
 

4ondafloor

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I've encountered a few folks who could easily have used some training with respect to their small dogs. YEP!! You bet. Can't argue tht one Nessa.

The OP *did* edit her initial comment and removed part of it stating in the reason for edit that she didn't want to offend anyone so in essence, yes, it did change the dynamic of the thread leaving Kelly to take the brunt of it and having to defend herself. The original thread was pretty snarky.
I'm guilty of calling small dogs yipper yappers. I'm also guilty of saying that some small dogs are little ankle biters..heck, I've probably said a few other choice things too but I can honestly say that I have never resorted to "smartass comments" ( part of the edited portion of the OP's comment) with respect to dealing with their owners. I own a little yip yapper..a rescue boy who needed a home.
I clearly recognize how Kel became defensive.
Kel had her feeling taken to task because of the OP.
Nessa, I'm afraid you fell into in unknowingly because your post venting your frustrations about Nookins getting bit just so happen to fall riiiiight in line with the OP.
Then to add, there were comments in various other threads that added fuel to the fire.
I think we can all agree that ALL dogs, big or small, deserve to be treated equally with respect and dignity. There are no bad dogs, just poorly educated owners.
I'm sorry Nookins was bitten on the nose. I can only imagine how that must have hurt both of you but on the same note we need to take notice and respect Kel for speaking up and asking that we be a tad more respectful as well. It's give and take after all, right?
 

twright1231

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Have you considered walking at night? I don't know what your situation is as far as neighborhood/suburban/city/etc. But, since it has been so hot this summer, the only time to walk Obie is late at night or early in the morning. I find we are much less likely to encounter other people/dogs and of course.. the questions, at night.

Early morning. That's what we do. If I'm on my game I can get out there before the little one's are standing for the bus. But then again, those are comments and cuddles you can't resist :)
 

Alex

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I just smile and keep walking. There's no obligation to answer people's comments. I've never spoken rudely to anyone, but I have pretended like I didn't hear them so I could get on with my day. I wish people would be a little more polite with their questions. Maybe it's going by the wayside, but my parents raised me that directly asking about a stranger's finances was very rude. I've been asked how much my dog cost, how much it costs to feed them, how much it costs to groom them, how much money I make, and have actually been questioned on how I can justify spending "that much" on a dog. I've also had people tell me I need to shave my dogs because I live in NC, even after explaining that a properly cared for coat of hair will do a MUCH better job of thermoregulation than a shaved coat. Then the people have the nerve to talk to my dogs as if I am torturing them, or at least being negligent or abusive, because I don't shave them. I also find the "who's taking who for a walk" comments rude and insulting. Do they look out of control? As long as I'm having anything other than an awful day, I can certainly educate, give people broad answers so I can answer their rude and nosey questions without having to show them bank statements and grocery bills. I smile through their comments that get old... On an awful day, I just walk on.
For the VAST majority of people, they are commenting because they like dogs, and they like my dogs, and would like to know more about them. I can only recall two people who were downright, purposely rude or critical of me, and I STILL answered them gracefully and politely, but I chewed the conversations over in my head for weeks (getting mad about it as I type...) wishing I could have given them a verbal lashing. Unfortunately, I can never think of anything good to say in the moment. :(
So no, you're not the only one.
::hugs::
 

Thule's Mom

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I had a guy in a motorized wheelchair cross traffic last night so he could pet Thule...now, seriously, what are you going to do! The guy was just SO thrilled to pet Thule, it kinda put me in a good mood too! Every day is different!
 

pabusinesswoman

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So sorry to hear about your tail bone. Back issues are not fun... period. We hope your back on the mends sooner than later. :hugs:

To help with the pulling, I can't say I have heard anything bad about prongs. It may help with any pain caused by Hagrid pulling.

When we go out and about, I too give extra time to chat. An average pet store run is 2 hrs. I have repeated myself so many times that my 7 year old now answers many of the questions... especially the one about putting a saddle on them. She is now quick as a whip with the response that... you should never do that.. you could really hurt their back.. :D We take lots of time to educate folks and try to be positive.

That being said, you do come across some people that ask you a question, you try to respond, and they inform you that you are wrong about your own dog. They miraculously know more than you when they did not even know the name of the breed when they approached you. Those are the ones that know matter how much you try to be nice, you just want to put your foot up their buttox and get away from them ASAP. There are those who want educated and want to learn. Then, there are those that, well it's pointless. It's dealing more with the attitude when you're trying to educate them.

I like the idea of a working vest. Perhaps even a reflective vest like highway men wear with some kind of indicator that the dog is "working". Since technically when trying to walk, they are "working".

Good luck! I hope you find something to work soon.
 

padkins

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Yesterday, a lady at the vet asked us what type of dog Indy was. We responded that she was a Newfoundland. The lady then said that she has a friend that has one of those that is solid white. What do ya do?
 

Murphy

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Yesterday, a lady at the vet asked us what type of dog Indy was. We responded that she was a Newfoundland. The lady then said that she has a friend that has one of those that is solid white. What do ya do?
Ya live with it.. :shrug: I personally feel most people are not mean spirited. Just interested or trying to be funny. The out and out morons I just ignore.

I have to say though, that the majority of comments I get are "He is so beautiful". In that case I have to agree. ;)
 

victoria1140

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People dont mean to ask what can be sometimes daft questions but we always try to tell people about the breed faults and all. Sometimes its not easy especially after wht seems like the fiftieth time but its part and parcel of owning the breed.

Perhaps you could employ a dog walker for a while especially if your back is giving you problems. I have dogs in our house of all shapes and sizes and I know the small dog syndrome can be annoying but I never blame the dog just the owners.
The service dog or fluroescent vest sounds like a good idea as hopefully it will give you a little more space.

My gsd Jessie is a real puller on the lead but the prong definetly helped. Is there anyone who can help you with dog walks.
 
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