I wish I had never looked...

[NewfieMama]

so be warned....and be ready with a :tequila:

http://newfypoopuppies.com/

http://www.bernedoodles.com/index.html

I'm on a parenting forum where someone said they had decided that the bernedoodle would be the perfect dog for them...and one thing led to another until I found the newfypoo/newdle site.

:shocker:

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

Oh yeah, seen that crap before (Though the Newf/Berner Cross was called a "New Mountain Dog") BARF. It is just so disheartening that people keep supporting piss-poor breeders day in and day out! The information is there and they just CHOOSE to ignore it or not even BOTHER to educate themselves in the first place. :banghead:

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

If people keep it up, this breed is doomed. It just is.

 

[AngusMcDubhsMom]

Oh H*LL! What is the matter with people? Guess as Sue says, Ya can't fix stupid!!
I met a guy at our local store who suggested my Newf and his GSD would be a great match..."a big TOUGH dog." Good grief.

 

[ElvisTheNewf]

A mutt is a mutt is a mutt. Not that there's anything wrong with a mutt, but there's nothing fancy about it. It's a mix of two dogs = mixed breed = mutt.

 

[anya]

The puppies look very unhappy.

 

[AubreyMo]

A mutt is a mutt is a mutt. Not that there's anything wrong with a mutt, but there's nothing fancy about it. It's a mix of two dogs = mixed breed = mutt.

This.

Also, I'm getting tired of the "doodle" ANYTHING phase. A breed is not made better just by mixing it with a poodle. Amen.

 

[NewfieMama]

This.

Also, I'm getting tired of the "doodle" ANYTHING phase. A breed is not made better just by mixing it with a poodle. Amen.

Read the About page on the Bernerdoodles - they were created by market demand (so many people suggested it) - not in any way to better a breed.

And the Newfypoo site - ack. From the messaging you'd think it was the perfect dog, for anyone, in any situation, anytime (as long as you can PayPal a puppy deposit).

:banghead:

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

And when in the world will people realize that there is NO SUCH THING as a hypoallergenic dog?!?

 

[AubreyMo]

And when in the world will people realize that there is NO SUCH THING as a hypoallergenic dog?!?

That's what I mean about making the breed "better". They breed anything to a poodle and sell it as hypoallergenic...

And when it's bred with a newf, they say "they don't drool or shed". Yikes!!

 

[ajcooksey]

Ugh this is definitely one of my pet peeves as well! We had someone suggest that their male gsd be bred with Willow and I was like um thanks but no thanks we are not going to breed them because I would like to leave that to the professionals.

 

[CMDRTED]

ONE WORD
"ACK!"
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[victoria1140]

I can always remember someone asking me if I would breed Beau with their staffy. I told him Beau was neutered and it really wasnt a good mix . Not that he was interested.

I hate when I see non shedding, non drooling or the best of both breeds

 

[slilli]

OMG... This is ridiculous.. Will the doodle madness never end?!?!

 

[ardeagold]

Even the man who originally "designed" doodles has stated since that he made a BIG mistake and wishes he had never done it.

 

[Natasha]

Stuff like this makes me feel so sad I hate this whole designer dog fancy. There are enough crappy BYBs out there already, without every other person thinking it's a fantastic idea to make their own ~snazzy hybrid~

I absolutely refuse to call any mixed breed by some silly name too, irrespective of the fact that there are too many to keep up with anyway!

 

[Puppypeoplenj]

I don't have any issues with mixed breeds, actually, if the parents represent their breeds accurately and to the breed standard, if the homes they were sent to were guaranteed to care for puppies for life, and if health checks were done on all breeding dogs. The problem is more when these things don't happen, in my opinion, than in mixed breeds themselves. I always try to remember how privileged I am to be able to get a dog from a wonderful breeder instead of rescuing an unknown. Not everyone can afford that, but if they can properly care for a dog, they deserve to have a dog to care for and love, too.

If a breeder has done all health checks and has two great representatives of the breed and loving homes for any and all dogs produced, then I really don't have any issue with mixed breeds. I especially love labradoodles, more than I like either labs or poodles. I'm getting a newfie because that's the dog for my family, but if my family's needs were better fit by some particular hybrid I don't think I'd have a problem bringing a healthy mixed breed dog into my home.

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

But the thing is, I'd be willing to bet that a shockingly huge amount of people breeding these dogs AREN'T good breeders, probably next to none of them are. They don't show these dogs, they don't work these dogs, they don't screen their dogs, the dogs aren't even able to be registered (which would make researching lineages a nearly impossible feat) and you have no idea what you're going to get from these pairings, so you have no idea what you SHOULD be screening for. It's a crapshoot, temperament-wise and physically...so how can a potential puppy buyer even be a good match when they have no idea what they're going to get?

I have no problem with mutts. I do, however, have an ENORMOUS problem with backyard breeders/irresponsible breeding.

And I've said this before, these dogs are bred, marketed and sold based on a mountain of lies, the least of which being the declaration of them being "shedless" "hypoallergenic" dogs and the gravest of which is the certainty of the inheritence of hybrid vigour.

There are enough mutts in shelters (and they aren't charging $2000 for them there).

 

[ElvisTheNewf]

Everything that Kristen said. I disagree with the websites acting like they're doing amazing things for this "breed". They got two dogs together and basic biology happened. Mixing two different breeds isn't making either breed better. In fact, you're doing nothing but watering down their original DNA. If you want a newf, get a newf. If you want a poodle, get a poodle. Getting a "noodle" is hardly the answer.

Any dog can be sweet, just like any dog can be aggressive. All dogs eat/poop/need training/have the ability to shed or drool/need love and attention. I feel like some of these dogs are marketed like that certain mix takes all the hassle out of dog ownership, and that's simply not true. It never will be.

 

[lotus]

oh yeah, seen that crap before (though the newf/berner cross was called a "new mountain dog") barf. It is just so disheartening that people keep supporting piss-poor breeders day in and day out! The information is there and they just choose to ignore it or not even bother to educate themselves in the first place. :banghead:

like!!!!