Hello again and GOODBYE

[Bluedog]

A lot of us old timers haven't been here much any more. Sad really. I stopped giving advice and insight long ago, unless private messaged for input or given a heads up on a thread. I regularly check into rainbow bridge, so I don't miss a treasured Newfs passing. Truth and sage, experienced advice is invaluable. Fuzzy, warm, "can't we all just get along" types and political correctness has it's place, in pics and daily cute updates, but truth, years of experience, knowledge, plain "in your face" talk and reality checks are invaluable for the survival and care of this breed. This breed IS a breed apart! Everyone needs to know that! They have a connection to humans, and intuitiveness that is beyond reproach. They are part of the people that care for them. It's hard to describe and convey to newbies, but it's there in everyone of us who are blessed to be owned by a Newf. When the knowledgeable, protectors of this breed leave, there is nothing left but warm fuzzies, and the sound of crickets...

 

[2newffamily]

I was so excited to find such a form that when I first signed on to NN, I inadvertently broke the rules with a post. It was unintended and the mod who deleted the post did so with an explanation and with tact for the newby. Sadly, that mod is no longer a mod. But then later on, I apparently broke the rules again and was told in no uncertain terms that I had broken the rules. In that particular situation, I felt that the mod was "splitting hairs". Whether that was the case or not, it left a bad taste so I'm not here as often anymore. And being flamed for having an opinion that someone else doesn't agree with is no fun either. Having said that, I think what GAD has created here is an amazing resource and I greatly appreciate the fact that it exists at all. So thank you GAD.

 

[Lori]

I've been here a long time but am in no way an expert on newfs. My daughter asked me why I stay when I don't have a newf. I told her I stay because I enjoy hearing about everyones newfs and I can share my experiences from my 12 years with my beloved bears. Luckily for me, since I've been here awhile, I know who the experts are. I feel for the new members who come on now since so many of those in the know are gone or don't post very often. Granted, the search feature is a great tool, but having a conversation with those who have/had gone through this, is invaluable. There have been so many times I have typed a post, thought about it for a bit - then erased it. Sad that we have to worry about how a post might be received. That is why so many are moving on to Facebook. You can say how you feel, people can zing you right back, and everyone gets along, kind of like NN used to be.

Debra, thanks for all of your insight and knowledge and all you do for rescue.

 

[KS Newf]

I must say without my dear friends here at NN PMing me with support, I would not be even 1/10 recovered from Gloria's loss. I have tried to explain to even very close nonnewf friends about Gloria being able to understand me, her intuitiveness, her gentle generosity as a senior around lively small dogs and children. Lori, I also understand your wanting to be here as I am now Newfless. Only the people who are Newf owners understand, and that is a fact. I love the knowledge, support and humor here. I appreciate GAD providing us with this resource. I will see those who have different ends in mind and different goals on FB (if I can figure out who you are because I am an inept FB user)

 

[jane]

A lot of us old timers haven't been here much any more. Sad really. I stopped giving advice and insight long ago, unless private messaged for input or given a heads up on a thread. I regularly check into rainbow bridge, so I don't miss a treasured Newfs passing. Truth and sage, experienced advice is invaluable. Fuzzy, warm, "can't we all just get along" types and political correctness has it's place, in pics and daily cute updates, but truth, years of experience, knowledge, plain "in your face" talk and reality checks are invaluable for the survival and care of this breed. This breed IS a breed apart! Everyone needs to know that! They have a connection to humans, and intuitiveness that is beyond reproach. They are part of the people that care for them. It's hard to describe and convey to newbies, but it's there in everyone of us who are blessed to be owned by a Newf. When the knowledgeable, protectors of this breed leave, there is nothing left but warm fuzzies, and the sound of crickets...

Very nicely said Nancy!!!

 

[DAWNMERIE]

This breed IS a breed apart! Everyone needs to know that! They have a connection to humans, and intuitiveness that is beyond reproach. They are part of the people that care for them. It's hard to describe and convey to newbies, but it's there in everyone of us who are blessed to be owned by a Newf.

These few lines....say everything to me..... Thank you, Nancy!!!!! That brought tears to my eyes....I may be a newbie to NN and this internet world but not to those feelings. I'm very aware of this and it is why I have my newfs and why I have been so thrilled to be here .....to have finally found what I would call a little slice of heaven.
I have not been in here long enough to know who's in the know...especially cause you all don’t post very often. But Nancy, I can tell by that statement you are certainly one of the ones that I would like to get to know.....

 

[NinaA]

Nancy, you are 100% correct, and those of us who have had Newfs for more than a few weeks know this. We also know that having a wonderful Newf is a lot of hard work and takes a lot of time. We should be forgiven and it should be a given that when we see someone who is not properly or realistically approaching the care and appreciation of these wonderful dogs, it is in our nature to want to smack them up the side of the head and say "grow up and get with the program". Is that untoward? If so, forgive me for my 25 years of Newf ownership.

 

[NinaA]

Having said all that, I will also say that N-N has been a huge source of help and information. Just this week I have done research and asked questions regarding Moonlight who has injured her knee (but the vet says she has spectacular hips). And, for that, I thank GAD every day.

 

[hawk]

This February will make 8 years since joining NewfNet. I don't have newfie but the knowledge and information shared here is invaluable for any breed. I don't think that all of our discussions need to be PC or light and fluffy. I've been involved with one or two that have been very emotionally heated. Debates can be this way ~ I do feel that there can be emotion, passion, upset, anger without being rude, harassing or in general hurtful. Calling people names whether publicly (on the forum) or in PM does not seem to be the best vehicle for open communication yet it was happening more so than in the past...

 

[Popcorn]

Debra, really sad to see you go ... missed the kerfluffle, and not seeing that NN has become PC ... don't do FB, so ... adieu! Hope you reconsider or at least send us regular pix of your lovies, especially Syd!

 

[Leonard and his bud Snuffles]

If people are flocking to FB to the kind of crap going on in the "Newf Net Members" group, I am glad to stay right here in a moderated forum.

 

[Ocean's Edge]

If people are flocking to FB to the kind of crap going on in the "Newf Net Members" group, I am glad to stay right here in a moderated forum.

I'm muchly inclined to agree Leonard

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

Cheers to that Leonard!

 

[Tula]

Ditto

 

[hawk]

 

[Leonard and his bud Snuffles]

So is there a better FB group to look at. I see mention of a "secret" group that anyone can join. Not that I plan on posting there in general because of my dislike of Facebook in general, but if there is some health issue, one needs maximum resources and it has dryed up a lot here.

 

[Blacknewfs]

If people are flocking to FB to the kind of crap going on in the "Newf Net Members" group, I am glad to stay right here in a moderated forum.

It is pretty pathetic the way some people are behaving! The group was SUPPOSED to be a place for members who wanted to find each other to do so, not a place for mud slinging and name calling. But of course 1 or 2 people have to draw attention to themselves by acting like fools.:icon_stupid:

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

So is there a better FB group to look at. I see mention of a "secret" group that anyone can join. Not that I plan on posting there in general because of my dislike of Facebook in general, but if there is some health issue, one needs maximum resources and it has dryed up a lot here.

You can friend me on FB Leonard! My FB (and real life) name is Kristen McDonough. I finally caved after about a decade of resisting it (mostly so that I could join a local mommy group on FB so I could get local recommendations for a new pediatrician for my little guy). I joined the NN Members group just so others on FB & NN could find me if they wanted to, but I have no plans in participating in the nonsense and ugliness that's going on over there. Really. Some of the people participating ought to be ashamed of themselves. Just awful...

I digress. I think it'll pick back up here in a bit Leonard. I think some people just need to blow off a little steam and waggle their indignant fists out into cyberspace...I think that after they've grown tired of that, most will come back here. I'll take the mutual respect and (relative) civility of NN any day over what's going on elsewhere.

 

[Henrys Mom]

I agree there is a lot of nonsense going on on the NN Facebook page. Facebook, however, is a great resource for those of us that enjoy it. I just don't give in to the stupidity, just like I don't give into it here. Ignore who and what I want. I don't know anything about a "secret" FB group and find it a bit amusing if there is such a thing. If you have to have something secret then it's probably not worth joining!! There are a lot of knowledgable people here on NN and on FB. It's really not fair to bash either one. I will continue to seek the support and advice of those I have come to trust and those offering sincere advice.

 

[Leonard and his bud Snuffles]

I don't know anything about a "secret" FB group and find it a bit amusing if there is such a thing. If you have to have something secret then it's probably not worth joining!! There are a lot of knowledgable people here on NN and on FB. It's really not fair to bash either one. I will continue to seek the support and advice of those I have come to trust and those offering sincere advice.

There was a reference to it in the 100 plus message *fight*, then this was typed towards the end. So it is not very secret.

...I believe you were invited to join the "secret" group you keep referring to, weren't you? People were free to invite any of their NN friends (former and current) and all were welcomed. None were turned away if they wanted to join. Doesn't sound all that secret to me. And CW didn't form it. I did.