Puppy forum - family can post - not the breeder?

[Dollyboons]

Is there a forum anyone knows of where you (the buyer) can post what you are looking for in a puppy, then breeders can contact you?
If not, there should be!
I have contacted tons of breeders, it would be nice if they could contact me if they had what I was looking for...

 

[Angela]

What are you looking for in a Newf puppy? Have you contacted the breeders on the NCA List, and the PNW Regional Club site and also the NCS, Seattle club?

 

[Dollyboons]

I've contacted SO many breeders, I think I've started to contact them all again... From here to France, and hungry.
I do have a deposit in at Tarbeary, but they may not have a puppy forme as I am 4th on the list, and in 2 years I have my name in with a breeder in France, and I have been in phone contact with windancer...

 

[Dollyboons]

Oh sorry, what I am looking for is -
A large female landseer, or Irish spotted. To be used as my service dog. A big blocky head, and solid body. Not TOO much white because it can be difficult to keep clean. 2 year health guarantee, health cleared/certified parents. Full AKC registration or registrable. Costing 3000 or below, + shipping. Yep I think that's it

 

[ardeagold]

Are you on Facebook? There are a zillion Newf people there from all over the world. I think I have 500+ on my Friend's List.

If you are, start getting Newf people on your Friend's List and you can contact them via Private Message to see if anyone can help you.

Don't forget...go to the beginning of these threads and look at the "sticky" posts about health clearances, etc.

Good luck!

 

[Dollyboons]

So really there is nowhere just to post what I'm looking for? Writing individual emails and searching through 100s of names on Facebook is very time consuming. It would be better if a breeder could just see what I needed and message me if they had what I was looking for. Yes, I'm on Facebook, and have a few breeder friends, but only those I have researched and have some sort of connection with. I don't think I should add breeders I have never reaserched before.

 

[ardeagold]

There aren't a great number of breeders here. But I'm sure they will be willing to help.

Did you contact the breeder referral person for the NCA? Scroll to the bottom for the phone number and email address.

You'll be speaking to Naomi. She connects people who are interested in pups with NCA member-breeders who have pups...or are expecting litters.

http://www.ncanewfs.org/breeders/breederlistmap.html

It's very worthwhile talking to her. I got my last pup because she referred me to a breeder I didn't know, but I knew by reputation..and sent an email on my behalf.

That breeder didn't have what I was looking for at the time, so after meeting with me and, no doubt, doing some checking, she referred me to another breeder that I also only knew by reputation, and gave her a call letting her know I'd be calling. When I did, she answered right away, and had been expecting my call.

As a result, eight mos ago we picked up our Frankie!

 

[ardeagold]

So really there is nowhere just to post what I'm looking for? Writing individual emails and searching through 100s of names on Facebook is very time consuming. It would be better if a breeder could just see what I needed and message me if they had what I was looking for. Yes, I'm on Facebook, and have a few breeder friends, but only those I have researched and have some sort of connection with. I don't think I should add breeders I have never reaserched before.

Just wanted to mention that the breeders you've researched may not have what you need, and there could be some that have exactly what you're looking for, but you'll never know if you don't know they exist!

Even if the breeders here contact you, if you haven't researched them yet, or haven't heard of them, you're still in contact with breeders you don't know, so I guess I don't see the difference?

I do hope you find what you're looking for!

 

[Sun Valley]

Hi,

Remember me? You contacted me about 2 weeks ago and I gave you some names to contact? As I also mentioned in my email to you, it will be difficult to find a reputable breeder who will sell you a 'pet' on full registration. I'm curious as to why you need full registration for a service dog?

Lou Ann

 

[Sound Bay Newfs]

Hi,

...it will be difficult to find a reputable breeder who will sell you a 'pet' on full registration. I'm curious as to why you need full registration for a service dog?

Lou Ann

I was wondering the same thing too. Also you are being very specific in your request or what type/color of dog you want. If you only want a Landseer, that narrows down the number of breeders you can contact. The size of the head and the size of the dog is something you would not know until the dog is grown sometimes. A breeder cannot always predict the size and appearance of the adult dog.

 

[NessaM]

If you don't want too much white, I think you should opt for an Irish Spot instead of a Landseer - traditionally a Landseer is considered a white dog with black markings...meaning more white than black.

You might want to contact Leska here on Newf Net - Cascadians is her handle. She has a Newf as a service dog, and she can probably share invaluable advice regarding what she was originally looking for, what she wound up getting, and how it has all worked out.

 

[Ginny]

Reputable breeders aren't out there looking for puppy buyers. It's the other way around. Also, not every dog has the characteristics required to be a service dog and assessing a pup as a candidate isn't fool-proof. You may want to look into getting an older dog...

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

I wholeheartedly agree with what everyone here has said thus far.

You may want to reassess your game plan. Getting a Newf isn't quite like ordering a burrito bowl at Chipotle.

 

[pabusinesswoman]

Dolly.. there is not really a list that I know. You could goto post boards, but many back yard breeders post there.

Most reputable breeders have the folks interested in a dog before they do the breeding. Unfortnately, there are no guarantees with genetics that your will get or how many you get. So, as your other breeder stated, there are no guarantees until they are born.

My Sadie is phenotypically is an irish spotted. Genotypically, she's landseer recessive. It took me a approximately a year of talking to good breeders and getting on lists to get what I wanted. Patience, in my case was a hard thing. I could have had one earlier if I wanted to go with a back yard breeder or if I wanted a male.

Breeders spoke amongst themselves at shows and such. I would touch back with those who may produce what I wanted every couple of months. Some would say they knew of another breeder that had a bitch that was landseer recessive that they were breeding... and I could check with them.

When Sadie came, she was well worth the wait. I was starting to get to the point I thought it was never going to happen. Now, she does therapy work and is just starting her draft work. Almost everyone she meets just loves her to pieces.

Most good breeders will not sell you a dog/ bitch on full registration unless they are a co-owner. There are a multitude of reasons for it. There's a whole different conversation there.

Good luck in your search.

 

[Angela]

I wonder if the request for Full registration is putting some breeders off replying Dolly?
I'm sure others may correct me but I can only think of 3 reasons for Full registration.

1. To show in conformation.
2. To breed.
3. To get the dog registered with Canadian Kennel Club etc.

 

[Dollyboons]

Well to answer your questions, yes, I remember... Well why I want full registration is this, less then 40% of dogs that enter into service training, actualy become service dogs. Then the dog should only work between 5 and 7 years, before it retires. I plan to breed my replacement, from the same line, assuming my dog does actualy make it as a service dog. Then I will have a whole litter of puppies to find homes for... And I am sure you know that registered dogs, for the most part, get better homes, then unregistered dogs. A litter of unregistered Newfie puppies, in my opinion, would go to homes, that are probably not able to afford pure bloodlines, and in that case probably can't afford to raise the dog, and it would wind up in a bad situation. I don't care to ever place a Newfie in a bad situation, so full registration is best, assuming my dog becomes certified, and passes all health tests.
Yes I am specific about what I want in a dog. I can be a bit vain ( yes I admit it ). And having my dog with me at all times in public, well I want the dog to shine. If I didn't care, I would just get any old lab, and call it good, as they do have the highest scucsess rate as a service animal. Plus my daughter, who is 19 would like to try her hand at showing...
Does that answer all the questions?

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

Well I can see why you're having trouble finding a breeder to work with. I can't imagine why any reputable one would want to sell a female that would be used for breeding at an advanced age, or any age for that matter, to a member of the general public.

Reputable breeders sell pet quality Newfs with Limited AKC Registrations and make spay requirements in their sales contracts. A Limited Registration means that if, god forbid, a lay person were to breed them against the knowledge or consent of the breeder, the resultant puppies would be ineligible for AKC registration of any kind.

I don't mean to come off badly, but I think you may be barking up the wrong tree, so to speak.

 

[Dollyboons]

I wonder if the request for Full registration is putting some breeders off replying Dolly?
I'm sure others may correct me but I can only think of 3 reasons for Full registration.

1. To show in conformation.
2. To breed.
3. To get the dog registered with Canadian Kennel Club etc.

I have never had trouble getting a breeder to respond, they just usualy don't have what I am looking for, most people understand the need to breed a replacement service dog, and you can see here, finding the right dog can take years.

 

[Pregreen]

"Yes I am specific about what I want in a dog. I can be a bit vain ( yes I admit it ). And having my dog with me at all times in public, well I want the dog to shine. If I didn't care, I would just get any old lab, and call it good, as they do have the highest scucsess rate as a service animal."

Are you for real? I would hardly refer to a service dog as "any old" anything.

 

[Dollyboons]

I don't even know what to say here... This is probably the worst forum I have ever joined, your not helpful, your just here to force your ideas on to others...
You take bits of what I am saying, like a dog can only work between 5 and 7 years, and just jump on "omg she's going to breed a geriatric dog omg omg", don't you think it would be smarter to have a full grown fully trained replacement at the time my original service dog retires??!?! Well I personally think that makes the most sence...
When I'm paying 3000 dollars for a dog, I am allowed to be picky.
Breeders all started somewhere, as normal people... I know a thing or two about dogs, and I have a HUGE support system. My trainer, who has been training and showing dogs for 30+ years, lives next door to me, I would never move forward with anything, without first consulting her!
If I wanted to buy from a backyard breeder, I have had plenty of opportunity to do so. I have lists of breeders that would love to sell me a dog, FULL registration, but their dog just wasent what I wad looking for..
I think the clique around here is really quite high school at best, and now I am sorry I even joined this website!