Bloat???

Blacknewfs

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Has anyone had experience with a dog recovering from early stages of bloat on their own? If so, did you x-ray and were there signs of gas in the stomach still?

I had a real scare with Neptune (8 yr old male). At dinner time last night instead of coming for dinner he ran outside and was frantically eating snow -- big mouthfuls, gulping it down. I called him back into the house and he came in and was very agitated, racing from door to door trying to get back outside. When I let him out he again would gulp huge mouthfuls of snow again. I brought him back in and he started retching and gagging, almost like he was having a hard time swallowing. I checked his mouth and his tongue and gums were grey. I felt his abdomen and it was rock hard, light a tight drum. He was very distressed, wide eyed, freaking out. I shoved 2 gas-x down his throat, called the vet and told her what was happening. She told me to pull him by his front legs up onto my shoulders to try to move the gas through, and to meet her at the clinic.

I pulled him up on my shoulders, did not get a burp, and just ran him out to the Jeep and headed off to the vet -- a 45 min drive (which I did in 30). He was crying and seemed to be in great distress/pain while I was driving, then about 10 minutes into our drive he went totally quiet and was not responding to me talking to him. I was alone, so just kept driving as fast as I could figuring there was no time to waste. It was dark so I could not see him. By the time I got to the vet I was sure he was gone - I hadn't heard a peep from the back of the Jeep in 20 minutes. I jumped out and opened the tail gate, and there he was, tail wagging, ready to plant a kiss on me. We were rushed into the clinic, they had everything prepped for emergency surgery. Did a preliminary exam, and his stomach had softened up quite a bit, his colour in his gums was back to normal, temp fine, heart rate good just slightly elevated, he was happy, tail wagging, etc. He let out a huge burp. We did multiple x-rays -- stomach looked good. His intestines however were absolutely full of gas. Loaded.
We stayed at the clinic a while and the vet did a more thorough assessment of him. By that time his abdomen was completely back to it's normal tightness and his heart rate was down to completely normal, but his intestines still felt full.

So we are not sure what was going on. My vet said in her 20 years as a vet she has never seen a dog who started bloating, stop bloating without lingering signs of bloat. Even if lifting him by his front legs had worked and moved the gas along from his stomach into his intestines, there still apparently would have been evidence of gas in his stomach, which there was not. Unless the gas-x resolved this? So it is possible this was not bloat, but we don't know what else would have had all of those symptoms.. She said everything I described is classic bloat symptoms but the frantic behaviour and pica behaviour (snow eating) can be seen from other types of abdominal distress.

I have no idea what to think, but it scared the hell out me. He has been fine since (almost 24 hours now) but still has not pooped. Based on the amount of gas in his intestines the vet warned us that he woudl likely have bad diarrhea. He hasn't.

He does have a family history of bloat so I know this is something we need to be aware of with him.

Has anyone experienced this type of behaviour before with anything other than bloat? Or , back to my original question, have you seen a bloat recovery without lingering gas in the stomach?
 

Jeannie

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I have nothing to offer but I am glad to her Neptune is better. I'd say he one dog who is full of miracles. I hope we keep seeing more and more miracles from this boy. Hugs to all of you.
 

Bucephalus

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I don't have any answers, but that must have been so scary for you. Sending hugs and wishes for Neptune to feel better soon :hugs:
 

Murphy

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I am so sorry buddy... I can't imagine how frightened you must have been during that drive. Thank God he is ok.....:hugs:
 

luvmynwfy

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Holy Crap! what a horrible ordeal but thank goodness it had a happy ending. I was totally reading your post frantically to get to the end...phew I'm so glad Neptune is alright.
Unfortunately I have no experience with bloat to offer any meaningful advice. Its certainly something every Newf owner dreads will happen. You acted fast and did everything right. I think I'll pick up some Gas X to keep on hand. Thanks for the tip about bringing the arms up to our shoulder height to help move the gas.
Let us know you if figure out any more of what else this could have been.
All the best
Marina
 

2Paws

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I'm sorry I can't offer any advice. Haven't had any experience with this. What a nasty scare for you but thank goodness you were aware of the symptons and reacted quickly enough. Keeping my fingers crossed that nothing more exciting than maybe a good fart happens to Neptune.
 

R Taft

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My newfs have never bloated, but I have quite a lot of experience with my friend Wolfhounds.

We have had one similar experience with Hamish....hamish also started to be "bloating" We are also a long way from the vets. We stretched him and we used http://www.iwane.org/acp_point_v2.htm. As we always do when we start traveling.
I also passed a Naso gastric tube and some awfull smelling gas came via that. But we had done that with a previous wolfie and it did not really help

He also was fine by the time we got to the vet........From Rock-hard to soft. We let out some gas via tube, so maybe Neptune burped his gas from the stomach.

Was the ride rough in the back of the Jeep...Could have helped?...causing a burp/movement

We are also not sure why he was fine after and his x-rays also showed gas in the intestine, but not much in his stomach.

I suppose there was no torsion......And everything passed and settled.

Just scary..........It is the only thing I hate about living Rural.
Glad Neptune is OK.
 

Shel

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Sandra, Ollie (I think he was Neptune's half-brother? He was out of Belle/Striker) would go through the same thing you described. His stomach would distend, he'd become panicked/frantic and run from door to door trying to get outside. Once outside he would eat anything (i.e. snow, leaves, twigs) to help make him vomit. If he couldn't get outside, he'd eat whatever he could find indoors (i.e. ears off of stuffies, corner of mattress, sheet, carpet). I couldn't get him to swallow Gas-X tabs, so I used the Gas-X quick dissolving strips and would place two on his tongue. They worked remarkably fast, within minutes... and Ollie would settle down and be his normal happy self. So sorry you and Tuna had to go through this... I know how scary it is. Unfortunately Ollie would "bloat" once a month, give or take.
 
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Murphy

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Sandra, Ollie (I think he was Neptune's half-brother? He was out of Belle/Striker) would go through the same thing you described. His stomach would distend, he'd become panicked/frantic and run from door to door trying to get outside. Once outside he would eat anything (i.e. snow, leaves, twigs) to help make him vomit. If he couldn't get outside, he'd eat whatever he could find indoors (i.e. ears off of stuffies, corner of mattress, sheet, carpet). I couldn't get him to swallow Gas-X tabs, so I used the Gas-X quick dissolving strips and would place two on his tongue. They worked remarkably fast, within minutes... and Ollie would settle down and be his normal happy self. So sorry you and Tuna had to go through this... I know how scary it is. Unfortunately Ollie would "pre-bloat" once a month, give or take.
Shel... don't have to tell you... these angels are raking years off our lives... good thing is.. they are worth it...
 

Blacknewfs

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Thanks everyone. I have received a lot of feedback from many different people on this and do believe this was bloat and not some other gastro upset.

I feel very fortunate that there was no torsion and that my boy came through this unscathed. Now I am on high alert watching for a recurrence.

Was the ride rough in the back of the Jeep...Could have helped?...causing a burp/movement
Yes! You are the second person who mentioned that as a possibility!

Sandra, Ollie (I think he was Neptune's half-brother? He was out of Belle/Striker) would go through the same thing you described. ......... I couldn't get him to swallow Gas-X tabs, so I used the Gas-X quick dissolving strips and would place two on his tongue.
Wow Shel, I had no idea Ollie used to do this. The quick dissolving strips sound like a great idea, I will pick some up.
 

chumleysma

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I wonder where all that gas came from if it was dinnertime and he had not yet eaten. Could it have come from a breakfast that stayed in the stomach too long? I'm just curious since others have mentioned the foul smell of a bloat stomach. A 45 minute drive must have been terrible for you. I'm just glad you knew what to do...Neptune is lucky he had you.
 

new_2_newf

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still kills me to read this...so glad he is ok. that would have scared the living crap out of me. Sulley gets gas on occasion, but he's super good about eating pills. He gets a gas-x and then wants to snuggle with mummy till he farts. He's never gotten that distended feeling, but I can feel the gas rumbling through his body as I try to massage it out. the smell is normally epic, but he seems to feel better almost immediately after that. it is also the only time he asks to snuggle in bed.
 

ElvisTheNewf

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Wow. I never thought about keeping Gas-X on hand.

Elvis burps after eating ALL THE TIME. In fact, we call it his patented "post-dinner move." He'll eat, walk around a bit, then within about 5 minutes he'll come over to me and burp in my face. Every night.

I'm glad he's okay! I can't imagine how scary that must have been. I used to have a Jeep, I bet the ride did move some of that gas around.
 
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