will cops taze your dog ?

imis_idora

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I still think it is very disgusting. I am on the neighborhood watch. My newf is known around here. I even had my friend call me to bring him out for him to meet a policeman. My thought of the day is there is good and bad in all forms of humans no matter the job, race, or neighborhoods. I also am grateful to the man and women who serve to protect us. And I also understand that a dog can be threating. About 2 weeks ago we had 2 huge pitts go on a rampage. They attacked 2 people 1 severely. It was also was happening at the same time mine and other kids were walking home from the bus stop. BUT there is a need and there is abuse. The abuse needs to Stop!
 

CMDRTED

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Just a couple of things (Hopefully to put this in a little perspective)

1. 90% of police officers are good hard working professionals. You normally only here of the oobs and idiots. Nobodys perfect and some people slip through the process and get hired that probably should not.

2. Training costs money. In these economic times, training dollars go where the most important training is needed. Unfortunately municipalities load police with social duties that have nothing to do with traditional police work.

3. Also due to the economy their are less police than there were in 2008, ergo, less officers to respond to more work. Very stressful and physically tough on the officers.

4. It's a dirty job, and someone has to do it.

5. Police receive little to no training in animal control. This has become a police "Job" as towns and cities look to cut personnel, I'd rather have the police than animal control people. Which without proper training due to money issues increases the problem.

6. Citizens have become lazy and self-ish, demanding more from governmental entites and then whining about why their taxes are going up to pay for things that government did not do or had/s no business doing. They have refused to accept their responsibilities as citizens to do their part, they would rather be spoon fed, and have everything done for them.

Sorry JMHO. Remember most things they deal with on a day to day basis, is why you lock your door at night. They are people who make split second decisions and have to live with the consequinces and hope their right 100% of the time.
 

Pipelineozzy

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I agree Ted. While there have been some deplorable incidents with police and dogs, I was very disappointed when it turned into a "paint all police" situation. Not long after Rosie, there was a case near me where an officer shot a dog that was actually sent out to attack him while he was making an arrest, he was injured, and in in a position of having to defend himself (there were actually two pits, and it was a drug arrest). The fallout from that was thrown in with the Rosie incident, and that really ticked me off, since the two incidents were not even remotely similar. The same day, I got a phone call from a local police officer who wanted to know if I knew who a little dog he had picked up belonged to, as she had been riding around in the squad car with him for most of the day, he found her running loose and scared. He ended up keeping her, getting her vaccinated and spayed, and then finding her a good home. There is good and bad in every profession, and every walk of life.
 

KodysGrandma

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Of course there are both kinds in police forces and there are definitely times when they must kill an animal. What we need to stop is the un-necessary, unwarranted killings that appear to be for fun or from stupidity. Re tazers I have READ and will admit I have not checked it myself that tazer manufacturers say NOT to use on animals because of the fur. If this is true than that needs to be stopped immediately in all police forces and alternative methods made available. There are many animal groups who could and would provide proper training so that should not be an issue
 

CMDRTED

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There are many animal groups who could and would provide proper training so that should not be an issue
Not exactly correct. Police training is mandated by both the Federal and State Government. Training must be conducted by qualified and "Certified" Law Enforcement Instructors. Any new training must be vetted through lawyers, the state, and sometimes the Feds. As to the no cost issue, there is always a cost, if nothing more than the governmental unit has to pay overtime to the officers to attend the training. It is not done on-duty. That again costs money. Who is going to pay for it? It's all about the DOLLARS folks. While I am as much outraged as anyone else here when a stupidity is committed, and I ranted quite frequently to the Desmoines, WA PD when Rosie was shot, It's all a money issue.

Kennel Clubs, rescue groups have no clue how to teach animal control to police officers, sorry show me one. The training has to be developed, vetted, run through the lawyers, made into policies and certified, approved by the city council or whatever it is called, and then the training is given. Sorry in reality, if a governmental entity is willing to pay for it, it will take 18-24 months for that to happen. That is about the average time. Most governmental entities are struggling to find dollars just to plow snow, let alone fix a problem that we are highly concerned about, but they are not. That's the reality, and it's going to get worse as governments struggle to pay the bills for essential services. You are going to see all of the "feel good" government services dissappear within the next two years or so, as governments try to balance their budget, sucks but that is the way it is. I have this issue every day at work, over very serious issues about protecting the public from some very naughty people.

In today's society, everything is now, now, now, it does not happen that way, as much as we would like it to.

Once again I preface this with it's JMHO, please feel very free to discuss the other side, I always welcome a good debate.

BTW I am just as frustrated about all of this as everyone else. Unfortunately every day you are going to see something that the government (regardless of the level) is not going to do anymore due to cost.
 
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KodysGrandma

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I'll take your word for all the intricacies. Question then is How Do We Change This and make the process faster, cheaper and easier? Amy ideas? Perhaps American Humane or ASPCA could develop the curriculums in conjunction with some law enforcement group, then train and certify those who teach.
 
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