Sherry1999
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We have to stop the nipping
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pecanpiepatti
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Sherry,
Check out these previous threads:
http://www.newf.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=82874&highlight=nipping
http://www.newf.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=79156&highlight=nipping
Check out these previous threads:
http://www.newf.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=82874&highlight=nipping
http://www.newf.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=79156&highlight=nipping
Bär
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At 16 months old he is a teenager that is testing to see what he can get away with. Also, he has not been in your home for long. The adjustment can take time & a lot of hard work.
There are a lot of members here that have expirence in rescue, I am they will have some good tips.
Have you tried NILIF?
Hang in there, I think all he needs is time, patients, structure. But don't let him get away with this behavior.
Sorry not much help from here. Wish you the best of luck with your pup.
There are a lot of members here that have expirence in rescue, I am they will have some good tips.
Have you tried NILIF?
Hang in there, I think all he needs is time, patients, structure. But don't let him get away with this behavior.
Sorry not much help from here. Wish you the best of luck with your pup.
Quickly, before I run out, this is not something that should be very difficult to break. It's just a matter of limits. Nipping is very different than biting and dogs at that age will try to test limits. Really, he's just trying to play and needs to be taught that it is NOT ok to play like that.
Our rescue Winston came to us this summer at around the same age as your Winston and he tested w/some nipping when excited and wanting to play...
Here is what we did:
1 - Kept him on a prong collar with a leash or a tab when in situations that he might nip. Our problems came in the backyard with our kids (aged two and four) so I just always had him on a leash and prong for a while (several weeks, and then as needed .... still do it intially when in the backyard when Winston has "beans"). That way you can correct.
2 - We gave Winston an opportunity to nip and wrestle that WAS OK.... for us, it's the daily dog park, where dogs can wrestle and bite and chase... we do that EVERy day. or most every day. You could set up play dates for your boy. Give him the space where that is OK (but ONly with other dogs ... do NOT let him do that with people,e ven adults).
3- We tired Winston out each day, we also, as he was adjusting, notonly did the dog park but did MASSIVE hikes/walks each day. At sixteen months, your boy is at his PEAK energy levels, and just needs to drain a bit...
4- we did a lot of distraction from bad behavior w/treats because our W. is treat motivated
5- Finally, for us, as suggested by the wise minds here, we used "ignoring" behavior. That is the MOST effective. When Winston gets rough, we just all leave immediately and he is totally alone in the backyard. A few minutes later ... the crying begins. He has learned, if I chase/nip the people, I get left alone. To a newf, that is the worst thing that can possibly happen.
We don't scold or chase or yell when Winston does bad behavior. I keep totally silent. Any of the above will further excite him as it mimics play behavior.
Good luck... hope others chime in, there is so much good advice here.
Liz
Our rescue Winston came to us this summer at around the same age as your Winston and he tested w/some nipping when excited and wanting to play...
Here is what we did:
1 - Kept him on a prong collar with a leash or a tab when in situations that he might nip. Our problems came in the backyard with our kids (aged two and four) so I just always had him on a leash and prong for a while (several weeks, and then as needed .... still do it intially when in the backyard when Winston has "beans"). That way you can correct.
2 - We gave Winston an opportunity to nip and wrestle that WAS OK.... for us, it's the daily dog park, where dogs can wrestle and bite and chase... we do that EVERy day. or most every day. You could set up play dates for your boy. Give him the space where that is OK (but ONly with other dogs ... do NOT let him do that with people,e ven adults).
3- We tired Winston out each day, we also, as he was adjusting, notonly did the dog park but did MASSIVE hikes/walks each day. At sixteen months, your boy is at his PEAK energy levels, and just needs to drain a bit...
4- we did a lot of distraction from bad behavior w/treats because our W. is treat motivated
5- Finally, for us, as suggested by the wise minds here, we used "ignoring" behavior. That is the MOST effective. When Winston gets rough, we just all leave immediately and he is totally alone in the backyard. A few minutes later ... the crying begins. He has learned, if I chase/nip the people, I get left alone. To a newf, that is the worst thing that can possibly happen.
We don't scold or chase or yell when Winston does bad behavior. I keep totally silent. Any of the above will further excite him as it mimics play behavior.
Good luck... hope others chime in, there is so much good advice here.
Liz
Sherry1999
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4ondafloor
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NILIF Nothing in life is free. There are many websites for it. Just google it as NILIF
Here's one:http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm
Here's one:http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm
4ondafloor
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Syndey our rescue is 14 months old. He's not a nipper but he does "mouth" when excited. He gets ignored. I tell him "we don't bite the mama" and turn away. If he continues we crate.
He is working on his habit as are we. I have a 3 yr old grandson but he does not "mouth" him. He does it more to Mark, my husband, than he does me. Usually it is when he comes home from work. He gets so excited that he will take Mark's arm in his mouth as if to say "PET ME! PET ME!"
NILIF is a very effective training method that I hear wonderful things about. I have not implemeted it completely but I had adopted a few things from it.
Good luck. Don't get discouraged. You'll get a ton of great advice here. Please don't give up on him. He is just a teenager for sure. It is almost certainly not agressive behavior and it CAN be stopped. Consistent attention is key. Find out what motivates him and use it to your advantage. GOOD LUCK! Keep us posted.
He is working on his habit as are we. I have a 3 yr old grandson but he does not "mouth" him. He does it more to Mark, my husband, than he does me. Usually it is when he comes home from work. He gets so excited that he will take Mark's arm in his mouth as if to say "PET ME! PET ME!"
NILIF is a very effective training method that I hear wonderful things about. I have not implemeted it completely but I had adopted a few things from it.
Good luck. Don't get discouraged. You'll get a ton of great advice here. Please don't give up on him. He is just a teenager for sure. It is almost certainly not agressive behavior and it CAN be stopped. Consistent attention is key. Find out what motivates him and use it to your advantage. GOOD LUCK! Keep us posted.
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Abbey
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Let's put this in a different light. If you were to look at this as Winston being a young teenager, talking back & arguing, THAT is what Winston is doing. You want him to settle down, He says NO. You want him to be good, He says, I don't want to. You want him to listen, He says, La la la la la paws over his ears, La la la! You really need to get him in training classes and start with the " Nothing in Life is Free" program. This isn't happening just because he's a rescue, It happens to all puppies. It's time to show Winston that YOU get the last word, not him!! Oh, And he needs MORE toys. We have a toy box full of cheap toys for ours to play with. Someday I need to teach them how to pick up their toys and put them back in the box. :!rolling:
Baloo
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Baloo would do the same thing...almost always in the back yard but sometimes in the house. It's taken time but he is sooo much better now. I still keep him on a least with prong when he starts playing with the kids as a 'just in case'. I should add he mostly did it to me, Alpha Mom. He is a lot better now than he was 4 months ago. Time, time and time...and persevere....with training he will get better and also, as he gets older he will calm down too.
victoria1140
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beau used to do this and we used the distraction technique as he was very food orientated , if it was because he was excited then we ignored him,. lots of training is definetly the key and helping them to burn off their excess energy as they are like hyper children keep them calm and they learn to listen. Beau is an obnoxious boy at times but we dont tolerate or let him get away with it.
best wishs and keep perservering as its wonderful when you get through the teenage times
best wishs and keep perservering as its wonderful when you get through the teenage times
4ondafloor
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Sherry...what happened? I hope you didn't get too discouraged.
I don't think any of us said anything offensive in the advice we added that would cause you to delete your original post did we? Please chime back in and let us know.
We all want to help. Honest.:icon_knuddel: Every last one of us have been where you are with Winston.
I don't think any of us said anything offensive in the advice we added that would cause you to delete your original post did we? Please chime back in and let us know.
We all want to help. Honest.:icon_knuddel: Every last one of us have been where you are with Winston.
Sherry1999
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OWNC contacted me after they saw the post. We still have Winston. Thank you to all the NN people you are great! Good advice and I feel like I have made some friends on here and will not hesitate to turn to you in the future if I need advice or help! I truly appreciate it all. Keep you fingers and toes crossed for us!!
Sherry1999
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Thank you for all the help and support
Like I said.... we still have Winston. Already love him. I was not nearly ready to give up on Winston when I made the origional post, I was just looking to talk to others that had experienced the same type of problem. We have found a Companion animal behavior specialist and dog trainer here. Winston will be meeting him on Wednesday. I am very reassured that we are doing the right thing for Winston after my conversation with the trainer. It will all work out!! Again thank you to everyone who is trying to help. :allg069:
Like I said.... we still have Winston. Already love him. I was not nearly ready to give up on Winston when I made the origional post, I was just looking to talk to others that had experienced the same type of problem. We have found a Companion animal behavior specialist and dog trainer here. Winston will be meeting him on Wednesday. I am very reassured that we are doing the right thing for Winston after my conversation with the trainer. It will all work out!! Again thank you to everyone who is trying to help. :allg069: