pie crust

brady

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I need help. I am having a terrible time with my pie crust. I follow the recipe, use ice cold water. Leave in the fridge, than when it comes time to roll out the dough it all falls apart. What am I doing wrong? I used to be able to ask my Mom these questions. Of course she would tell me to go buy a crust! She was so funny.
 

louienewf

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I use 2-1/2 cups flour, 1tsp sugar, 1tsp salt, I use 2 sticks of unsalted butter, cut the butter into the flour. I than put ice in a measuring cup, slowly add water until everything sticks together, wrap in plastic wrap, than refrigerate. The thing I learned about making pie crust is to make it slightly wetter than what most recipes tell you. Good Luck

P.S. Weather has alot to do with how much liquid you will need.
 

ina/puusty

New member
Here..I use an odd recipe, as I cobbled it together..from other sorts of recipes..over the years. It goes thus: 3 cups of flour (I use unbleached) 1 and a quarter cup of butter, and 1 teaspoon salt(I use sea salt). Sift flour and salt, then cut in the butter with a sharp knife. (Go watch something on tv..so you will stay long enough..at the job of cutting smaller and smaller lumps..into the mix..that they end up the size of rice grains..ALL of them!)Then add: 1 large egg, 2 Tablespoons vinegar and 3 Tablespoons of water..cool or cold..no problem. Form into two balls, after a LIGHT mixing around..of the grainy dough (about 30 seconds)at which point it will look smoother..but not elastic. Put the balls into the fridge to cool for about 20 min. Remove one at a time. Flour your work surface..and lightly start by using the heel of your hand..to flatten the 'ball' of dough..into a fat circle. Keep pressing down, and turn, press down and turn..as you are trying to create an even thickness of dough..as it 'raditates OUT..from the center. I only start using the rolling pin..when I have flattened-extended..the dough..into a circle about half an inch in thickness..so the actual 'looking down' at it is a view suggesting the dough is the size of a lunch plate, not dinner plate. Then..use your rolling pin to roll from the center of the circle..towards whatever edge you choose. Roll a few more times..moving around the circle a bit further..each stroke..every one..starting at the center..and moving outward. You are trying to keep the pulling effect.., stretching from center..to further and further out. After a few rolls..you also pick it up with gentle touch..and flip it over,,and then continue..until it is large enough to drape over your pie tin. Pat it into the pan..cut the edge leaving enough for the over lap and or fluted crust..depending upon your pie recipe. (One crust..or two) I always bake in the pin tins which have an extra inch and a half rim..so I get a perfect amount of the crust..left..for when I make the edge. Then I put the pan into my fridge for 30 min..and start heating my oven. When the oven is at 425 or so, I pop the pie tin out, fill it, and straight into the oven..as you do NOT want the very cold crust..to warm up. What ever the pie and baking time..you want that first burst of high heat..so as to make the water go ballistic..in the pockets of flour dough. Only ten min. at that temp..will do it..then you can turn down to whatever is normal.It is the initial burst of over heated air in the oven..that makes the moisture in the crust..'explode'..and that makes it flaky. If you have a double crust pie..then you do your fluting of crust, after it is filled, and the whole pie goes into the fridge for 30 min. Ok..a wretched telling..but..thats how it goes here. ina n HB
 

Sheila

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I always had an issue with pie crusts, now I use the super simple recipes with oil and milk, no refrigeration necessary. Easy Breezy. Can't find my exact recipe, but I'm sure this one is dang near the same.

EASY NO FAIL PIE CRUST

2 c. all purpose flour
1/2 tsp. salt
1/3 c. milk
2/3 c. vegetable oil

Measure flour and salt. Add milk and oil. Stir only until dry ingredients are blended in. Divide dough in half. Roll each portion between 2 pieces of wax paper. Remove top layer of wax paper and transfer crust into pie plate with bottom wax paper still intact and on top. Remove wax paper from crust and shape edges as desired. Repeat with second portion of recipe.

If you're keen on using your own recipe I'm not sure how to help you except to maybe add extra milk by the teaspoon until you think its not too dry and will stay together, make sure you're only adding by the teaspoonful though, I have a cookie recipe that requires this method, its a pain in the butt, but when they're just right it's worth it.
 

pjcarbone

Inactive Member
I can't make pie crust to save my life. But my Mom made the best, she always used Crisco. Try foodchannel.com, or is it foodnetwork.com & look up pie crust, or you could always buy them, but there really isn't anything like home made.
 

migrandl

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I use a lard crust.... never fails for me.

For 1 crust pie:

1 C flour (I use unbleached)
1/3 C lard
1 tsp. salt
Ice water

Blend flour, lard and salt until well mixed, like rice grains as in Ina's recipe. Add 2 TBSP ice water and mix with a fork, adding more water as needed until the crust forms a ball in the bottom of your bowl. Keeping the dough a little on the wet side helps. Flour the surface you will be working on, form the dough into a ball and roll out to 1/8 to 1/4 inch thickness. Double the recipe for a 2 crust pie.
 

Erika

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Lard definitely makes the best crust....yum.....good for making cookies to..OK now I'm hungry
 

mudji

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Pat,
Do you want me to come down there to offer lessons?? I made a wonderful pate brisee last week for a quiche crust. Sounds like you did not add enough moisture to the flour.

hannah
 

BoundlessNewfs

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Here's a no-fail pie crust....go to grocery store. Purchase a Pet-Ritz ready-made crust. Fill. Bake. Husband didn't know the difference...in fact complimented me 'cause I finally got it right!
 

pjcarbone

Inactive Member
Hannah, I have a problem rolling out anything. If there is rolling involved in a recipe, I just go onto a different recipe. Yes, please come on down, I don't mind being taught how to make better pie crusts, all help is welcome.
 

ina/puusty

New member
Sigh! As the Brits would say: "Oh DO come along James"!! You gals only need to remember two things..when dealing with any recipe. Go back to the origins. A little scruffy mash of seeds, some water..and a hot rock to cook on! You are 'fearing'..yourselves..absolutely..and truely! You have a glass of wine or whatever..if you must..and then..remember you have an ENTIRE mix of ingredients..worth about 27 cents. YES..ok? ;) You somewhat more relaxed now..good! For those who are really frustrated..try this. Mix up..3 sep. recipes..all the same mix..just 3 of them. Store two in the fridge..and ..PLAY..with the dough from the first mix. (You may have to borrow some pie tins..or purchase a few..at a thrift..if not enough. I have an assortment of 7..as do diff. stuff..and some times..multiples.) Do whatever you normally do..and by the time it 'gets to the pan'..check it out..and then toss in fridge, removing the second batch. Play with that one..any way you wish. When it is in the pan..toss into the fridge..and get the third ball of dough. Same thing..only try diff. moves, more or less moisture, more or less..rolling pin, or 'heel of hand'. Look them over..and then toss all into the garbage, wash the pans..and tell no one. Eventually..you will feel like doing a pie..and then, and only then..do one or two. You are dealing with fear..and I saw so much of that..in the cooking classes..that I developed a whole stratigy (sp?) around..combating ..'fear'. soo..."Come along James!!" ;) ina n HB
 

breeze50uk

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Ina lol!! I've heard that expression so many times on t.v. I laughed as soon as I read it!
Your posh English accent was really good! rofl!!
 

brady

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Thank you all, after I asked the question I lost my computer for a week. The recipe is 2 cups flour, 2/3 C short (I use crisco) and 4 tble ice water. The food channel suggests putting it in the fridge overnight. I may not be putting enough liquid in it either. I am going to try that next time or just come to the realization I am not Betty Crocker and buy the crust.
 

NinaA

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Two things in cooking I have never mastered - fried chicken and pie crusts. Pet Ritz all the way. Put in a good filling and nobody cares. Most never know the difference. BTW you can always slide the frozen crust into a glass or ceramic pan and say you did it yourself.
 

puppylove1

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Oh I agree completely with you Nina! I love Ritz! I could never make a round pie crust no matter how hard I tried. Now fried chicken mmmmmmm haven't made that in years, maybe time to try again!
 
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