Peeing the bed. OUR bed!!

[Sugah]

I'd say your first step is to go to the vet to rule out anything on that end.

Then, if all comes out normal....then I'd say it's time to start potty training over again (just as if she was a 10 week old puppy that you just brought into your home). Unfortunately, I'd suggest going out with her each time and keeping her on a leash so that you can monitor exactly what she is (or is not) doing. Also, keeping her in a confined area if you are not consistantly monitoring her. I know, it sounds like a pain...but it shouldn't take long if you stay consistant with her.

Ok, so after we rule out/treat her for a UTI we housebreak her. But isn't housebreaking intended to teach them to show us when they need to go out? Moosh has no problem letting me know (except this morning - unless I missed it) she needs to go out. It's just that she wants to go out very frequently.

I never leave her alone on her own because I know she has no issue squatting where she stands if I don't notice she's scratching at the back door.

When we're in the tv room (which is on an upper floor), I have a corner gated off for her to sleep and chew her bone because I know she'll be running to the door frequently.

 

[Sugah]

Also, thanks everyone for your comments

 

[Wash]

Maybe she is testing her boundaries? It is my understanding that the top dog in a pack gets the best place to sleep...she may be marking the bed as hers in an attempt to move up the ranks. Just a thought.

My very first thought.

 

[Jager's Mom]

Hmmmm...yes, we do want them to let us know when they want to go out...but maybe she is telling you she wants to go out...but when she goes out she isn't going potty while she's out there. Or if she does go, she only go a small bit, gets side tracked, and doesn't empty her entire bladder (which I'm guessing could lead to a UTi??).

After she's been outside and pottied, then she's been inside for about an hour...put her into her crate for about an hour, then immediately take her back outside to potty....her bladder may be full then and she'll empty the bladder instead of "marking".

Not sure if any of this helps....just wanted to throw out some ideas. (crazy as they may sound)

 

[charlieinnj]

Ruling out some sort of UTI that is making her *need* to go more often, it kind of sounds like she has you trained that when she goes to the door, she always goes out. Are you home all the time and as a result, she actually is able to go out every hour? Maybe she needs to be crated more frequently since you mentioned she's held it for 6 hours or so. It's kinda like she *knows* what to do....she just doesn't have to.

 

[Sugah]

My very first thought.

Oh goodness! mm

Hmmmm...yes, we do want them to let us know when they want to go out...but maybe she is telling you she wants to go out...but when she goes out she isn't going potty while she's out there. Or if she does go, she only go a small bit, gets side tracked, and doesn't empty her entire bladder (which I'm guessing could lead to a UTi??).

After she's been outside and pottied, then she's been inside for about an hour...put her into her crate for about an hour, then immediately take her back outside to potty....her bladder may be full then and she'll empty the bladder instead of "marking".

Not sure if any of this helps....just wanted to throw out some ideas. (crazy as they may sound)

Ruling out some sort of UTI that is making her *need* to go more often, it kind of sounds like she has you trained that when she goes to the door, she always goes out. Are you home all the time and as a result, she actually is able to go out every hour? Maybe she needs to be crated more frequently since you mentioned she's held it for 6 hours or so. It's kinda like she *knows* what to do....she just doesn't have to.

So basically she's being top dog in the family. :S She definitely has me trained... and when I don't listen to her, she pees on the floor. Or my bed, apparently.
And when I reprimand her for it she just looks at me like she doesn't know what I'm doing. Moosh has always been a super well-behaved puppy so I don't know if "No" has much meaning for her.

Compounding the training problem may also be daycare. She spends three days a week in an outdoor/kennel setting where she can go whenever she wants. I'm home with her the rest of the week.

 

[charlieinnj]

Personally, I'm not buying the 'top dog' concept. To me, dogs live in the moment and JMHO, they don't do things out of spite. I really just think she's not housebroken very well because she's not used to having to hold it. And unless you are reprimanding her the MOMENT she's peeing where she's not supposed to, it's not serving any purpose. Again, they're "in the moment". If she's being scolded 5, 10, 15 minutes later...she thinks she's being scolded by you for what she's doing at that very moment.

BUT, you still don't know that there's not an underlying circumstance like a UTI. You really need to rule that out first.

 

[ElvisTheNewf]

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. I can't imagine how frustrating it can be!


Does she have easy access to water? Maybe she's drinking more than you realize?

If she's going out every hour, maybe she doesn't know what a full bladder feels like and thinks she has to get when she gets any little urge. Although if that is the case I have no idea how to get her over that.

Good luck!

 

[Sugah]

Personally, I'm not buying the 'top dog' concept. To me, dogs live in the moment and JMHO, they don't do things out of spite. I really just think she's not housebroken very well because she's not used to having to hold it. And unless you are reprimanding her the MOMENT she's peeing where she's not supposed to, it's not serving any purpose. Again, they're "in the moment". If she's being scolded 5, 10, 15 minutes later...she thinks she's being scolded by you for what she's doing at that very moment.

BUT, you still don't know that there's not an underlying circumstance like a UTI. You really need to rule that out first.

I only to scold her when she's in the moment (which is sometimes hard to catch).

Well, she's at the vet now for what I suspect is cherry eye, so I'll ask them to run some tests.

Ps: Awesome profile photo.

 

[Sugah]

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. I can't imagine how frustrating it can be!


Does she have easy access to water? Maybe she's drinking more than you realize?

If she's going out every hour, maybe she doesn't know what a full bladder feels like and thinks she has to get when she gets any little urge. Although if that is the case I have no idea how to get her over that.

Good luck!

Thanks! She does drink a lot, which could be part of it, but at nine months I wouldn't have expected to have to limit her water.

We'll see what the vet says...

 

[charlieinnj]

Good luck! Keep us posted!

And, you don't expect to have to limit her water? Hmmm.....Mine would 'slosh' when they walked if I didn't limit it.

 

[YorkvilleNewfie]

I limit Mila's water intake. She'll literally drink until she vomits. It's pretty annoying

 

[Popcorn]

Our old Newfie girl began peeing daily on my husband and my bed when I temporarily moved out of the bed because my husband snored. At the time, as a rescue dog, she had a real animosity/fear towards my husband (now worked through) ... and she just didn't like him.
Once I left the bed, and it was just his ... everyday she would do a big pee on the bed.

Ultimately, we had to throw the bed out (it was just a futon on the floor), buy a big mattress and get it up high (she won't climb) and then I moved back in the bed with him .... to make it clear it was mine.

Since then, I've migrated to other bedrooms when my husband's snoring gets bad, but she never peed on his bed again .... by then she and he had resolved their issues. Now she loves him.

BTW, one day I didn't give a kitty of mine her fifth snack of the day and she went right up and did a mega-pee on my bed. It tooks weeks to get the smell out ... and about 50 dollars of cleanser. Ultimately, it resulted in rehoming her. With a dog, I can work on the relationship and train them .... there is progress. I never mind those "pee statements" because it is just something to work through with the dog and has a clear solution over time.

With a cat, it's what you see is what you get.

 

[anya]

Anya did that at about 6 months of age. It was more about housebreaking and it was just another surface for her. After my shock and literally a high pitched NO!!! and immediately taking her outside, she didn't do it again. Not saying my method is a good training method...it was very spontaneous...but it worked...LOL!