Dodging a bullet

[Jentarin]

After reading Bob's post on Mary's birthday, his blog from her litter and the ripoffreport link, I google'd the breeder we got Bessa from. I have run into a couple of people that got puppies from, and noone was particularly happy. The top posting here http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Lynn-...g-newfoundland-pup-Full-of-Adult-roun-1144260 seems to be from the same litter, as we picked her up on Jan 5th of this year. Thanking the Lord that Bessa seems to be healthy and happy so far.

Bob's Post I referenced here http://www.newf.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=109026

 

[Puppypeoplenj]

Yikes! Terrifying that these kinds of breeders are allowed to keep selling dogs. THESE are the breeders the USDA should be legislating against.

 

[Angela]

Situations like this are the reason people must do their homework, research breeders, check out the breed club of their country. There are some good References on this forum how to find good breeders who will be "with you" for the life of your pup.

 

[Jentarin]

Situations like this are the reason people must do their homework, research breeders, check out the breed club of their country. There are some good References on this forum how to find good breeders who will be "with you" for the life of your pup.

Completely Agree, and next time I'm looking for a breeder, I'll be coming here first.

 

[Murphy]

I agree whole heartedly !!!!!!!!!!!!!! But never forget the ones who are left behind because of greed and ignorance. www.newf-friend.ca

 

[victoria1140]

just make sure you have good insurance and better to know now rather than later.
may she always stay healthy

 

[R Taft]

I agree whole heartedly !!!!!!!!!!!!!! But never forget the ones who are left behind because of greed and ignorance. www.newf-friend.ca

Yes never forget the lovely rescues...i have them both, I think that is fair. And I adore my three Rescues. And I do heaps of study and homwork with the ones from puppy.

Good breeders are supportive for the life of the dogs and some are lifetime friends forever now. Bad breeders need t be strung up.

When the previous owner of Harry was contacted she would not help, but told the previous owner not to ask newfie rescue here in Australia for help.........Luckily we found the dog on a cheap for sale site (Gumtree) and initially tried/offered to help her and she eventually handed over Harry to us (NSW newfie rescue) he was a troubled dog and needed people to understand him and work with him.

I have three Rescues and three form puppy

 

[ElvisTheNewf]

I think that one of the best things you can do is eventually admit (once you learn and realize) that your dog didn't come from the best place. Elvis came from a backyard breeder and I've been pretty open about it. We just didn't know any better at the time, but I hate using that as an excuse. Now we're extremely well educated and feel like we're in a place to help others, or at least explain to them based on our experience why a BYB is never the right choice.

What kills me is that a year or so ago about 3 new puppies from Elvis' breeder popped up on here, and then another person came asking for help because their dog (also from that breeder) needed a TPLO. The breeder is "proud" to be breeding larger than average newfs.

 

[Jentarin]

Yea, ours is claiming the whole "dry mouth" thing. I never really bought into it, but my wife had her heart set on it. Live, Learn, and Love our Newf anyway.

 

[wrknnwf]

I think that one of the best things you can do is eventually admit (once you learn and realize) that your dog didn't come from the best place. Elvis came from a backyard breeder and I've been pretty open about it. We just didn't know any better at the time, but I hate using that as an excuse. Now we're extremely well educated and feel like we're in a place to help others, or at least explain to them based on our experience why a BYB is never the right choice.

Thank you for saying this and doing your part to help educate others. It isn't easy to admit and I admire your openness. And it's often frustrating to try sharing your knowledge and experience with people, and convincing them to make wise choices. But we must keep at it.

I think many people on here would freely tell you that initially, they just didn't know any better, or were swayed by that cute puppy face, or felt the purchase price was "right" for them, or saw a money making opportunity. It's too bad that people make puppy buying decisions based on unawareness, emotion and/or finances instead of taking the time to make well-constructed decisions based on research and very critical self examination.

All the same, we love every dog regardless of where it came from and we hope they all will have the love, care and support they deserve.

 

[Brandie&Maggie]

I'll be honest. I did not know about all the health clearances, how to find a good breeder, etc until I found this forum. I know if we had decided to get a puppy from a breeder I would have done my research as well as I could, but I can't say if I would have figured it all out. We went with a rescue through our regional newf club and I am so glad we did.

And now if we ever decide to get a puppy I will know better.

You live and learn. As long as you are willing to love and care for your pup no matter what, all will be well.

I hate to think of the BYB crowd. We are pretty sure that our girl Maggie was used by one of these folks as we know she had several litters before she came to us. The vet estimated at least 4 litters based on what he saw on initial exam and during her spay. She was only about 4-5 years old.

 

[hsemko]

I went with a BYB with my first newf...I fell for all the lies, example: "We don't show our dogs because of all the politics", "We couldn't get her tested because she came into heat"; etc., etc. She had, and has, a nice website which I thought was important. Wow, was I ever WRONG!!! My only excuse was IGNORANCE. I just didn't know about BYB. I thought she was reputable, we went over to see the pups, the place was nice, it didn't look like those run down kennels they show on tv...I could go on and on. I didn't even realize they had forums like this one. I guess what I'm trying to say is that education is knowledge. We can beat ourselves up over, and over again, but I would have never been educated if it had not been for NewNet. I would never support a BYB again but now I know. My first newf died at 2 yrs. old. The breeder lives on!!!!

 

[dreamchaser456]

My first newf was from a byb but she was free ( no tail and doesn't look very newfy). I researched (I thought) very well when looking for my second but ended up with a 6 month old rescue (from a less than reputable rescue) that was bred in a mill. My latest is also a rescue from a mill. At least with the rescues I was much more educated about potential problems they may have from breeding.
Being more involved in my local club and rescue I now know that I will never get a pup from a breeder (even one that seems to check out great on all counts) without checking breed rescues in the area for the "low down" on that breeder. The ones you don't want to support are well known to the rescue groups!
I've been blessed that all 3 have been healthy without any major problems but when I get a pup again, it will be from the right place. And with what I now know, I'm extremely glad I didn't support a byb with money!

 

[Ginny]

To be honest, I think the AKC does a poor job when it comes to educating people about reputable breeders vs. backyard breeders. Recently, the Breeder of Merit designation has been added which is a step in the right direction. With all the dog lovers watching Westminster coverage, I think that would be a perfect forum for educating...