Availability of Irish Spotted Pups

[urneighbour]

Is it true that most breeders try to avoid producing Irish Newfs? If someone was looking to purchase an Irish pup from a reputable breeder, is it just be chance that one appears in the litter and does that mean that it could take an extra long time on a breeder's wait list if one had their heart set on an Irish and even longer wait if they had a preference to the sex of the pup?

 

[Sun Valley]

Hi,

I personally try not to produce them, but recessive genes can stay hidden many generations and then you do a breeding and get puppies with lots of white on them. If I know one of my girls is carrying that gene I will try to avoid it the next time if she's bred again...I also ask the stud dog owner what colors their male may be carrying or have already produced...I would prefer no surprises, but that's not always possible...

Lou Ann

 

[pabusinesswoman]

Yes,

Most breeders I have talked to try to not produce them. They do try to produce either the solid colors or the Landseers. Just as most would not breed specifically for a grey. They happen due to recessive genes.

I looked talked to several east coast breeders for well over a year to find mine. Interestingly enough, many of the breeders talked amongst each other that I was looking for one (big thanks to them). I started getting calls back from of the breeders about availability. Most did not have one themselves, but they knew of a littler here or there that had some white. They were very helpful in forwarding the numbers to talk to the other breeder. One had a littler that the males had the white chest, but not much other white. I was pretty set on a girl. Another factor to consider was that most of the white on the chest will shink a little as they grow. Patience was a big thing.

Just when I thought I was never going to find one... I received a call. Though the shows, they found a breeder had one a little further south that I had not checked into. She gave me a call and told me of the availability.

The rest is history. I was very greatful for all of their help.

 

[Abbey]

It really is a shame that most breeders try to "Avoid" producing Irish Spotteds. They are starting to win in the ring......just look at Gizzy: http://gizmosav.blogspot.com/
And how about this link:http://www.irishspots.blogspot.com/

 

[Angela]

LOL, Gizzy was one of Evan's competitors in the CKC Conformation ring here!!

 

[SunnyD]

I absolutely want an Irish Spotted for my next pup. Sunny's breeders sent me pics of a recent litter that were Landseers with a lot of black. I then had to ask how a few of these pups were considered "black and white" but not Irish.

I just love Gizzy's feet. They look like white mittens :lol: Ant the white tipped tail? I could just die....

 

[lilly06]

I personally LOVED that Lilly was Irish spotted. I just thought her markings were adorable!

 

[newfam]

I'm quite partial to the Irish too! :whistling:

 

[urneighbour]

I too would love to have a Irish Spotted Newf join my family one day...however, since most breeders try to avoid producing these sweeties, it seems that finding one with the adorable white booties and white chest relies more on timing and luck. For those of you who have an Irish Spotted, I would certainly be interested in hearing your story of how you found your special girl or boy.

 

[dfwmiket]

I certainly love my Irish spotted!!

 

[Kelridge]

We drove to pick up our All Black Boy Newf.....Got there - took one look at that "Irish Spotted Girl" and SHE came home with us!

We get so many compliments and comments about her markings - and the interesting part is that her white socks -chest and tip of her tail seem to 'GLOW in the dark' a bit so I can even spot her outside in the yard at night when she goes in the way back of the yard....(sort of a nice 'radar' option)

I would not trade her for the world (except for maybe when she 'back-talks" me!) :lol:

 

[Lori]

I too love the look of the Irish Spots. Can someone please tell me why breeders try not to breed for this? Is it health issues? Just trying to learn.

 

[Sound Bay Newfs]

They are harder to show, so that is why show breeders try to avoid them. It is the same for greys or other colors.

 

[Abbey]

Once you start getting more Irish Spotted competing and winning, I think Breeders will start introducing them into their breeding programs. At least, I HOPE they will. We have a Black, a Landseer and an Irish Spotted. Abbey, the Irish Spotted gets more attention than the other two together!

 

[pecanpiepatti]

I certainly love my Irish spotted!!

Me, too! :LMAO::LMAO:

When we're introducing the boys to non-Newf folks, in order to help tell them apart, we say "Magnum has mittens!" and then they can tell the Mag-man from the Thor-bear!

 

[Abbey]

I certainly love my Irish spotted!!

And didn't a certain Irish Spotted score big at a Dog Show recently?

 

[pecanpiepatti]

And didn't a certain Irish Spotted score big at a Dog Show recently?

2nd in 6-9 mos, both days!

 

[Guernsey10]

I'm quite partial to the Irish too!

 

[pabusinesswoman]

I too love the look of the Irish Spots. Can someone please tell me why breeders try not to breed for this? Is it health issues? Just trying to learn.

From what I was told (the reason it was so hard to find one)... I am not a breeder... most breeders try to get the closest they can to standard. That is defined as solid or the landseer markings...not in between. Thus, the goal of the breeder is to produce dogs that are close the standard and would not intentionally breed for Irish Spotted.

They are still a perfectly healthy dog, just have an expression of a recessive color gene.

In another post, Sun Valley posted...
"Before they changed the standard in the US many years ago to read "chin, chest, toes, and tip of tail, any amount of white found at these locations is typical and is not penalized" is what we use to say was an Irish spotted or a mismark. Now they can be shown and bred...I haven't looked at the Canadian Standard for awhile so I can't remember what they say about excessive amounts of white on a black dog."

I don't know when that change took place, but it may attribute to why more are being seen in the ring now.

 

[Abbey]

I would not trade her for the world (except for maybe when she 'back-talks" me!) :lol:

Abbey is the QUEEN of Back-talk! I wonder if it's a Irish Spotted thing, or just a spoiled girl thing!:lol::lol::lol: