Wood eating Pica?

Acadia

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Hi - Cadie is 3 and has not stopped chewing on wood (like my unfinished deck rails and now a cedar chest, but also sticks and any shrub she can get to (which she can't anymore in my yard). She has normal feces, but 1-2 times a week I find one that looks mostly like a chewed up piece of stick - it's gotta hurt coming out! Yesterday while spending time with my sister in her fenced in backyard, Cadie was eating sticks, leaves and even chomped on an acorn. It then donned on me that perhaps all this in not quite normal. Any experience with this or recommendations? Should I have a vet run tests (like what I don't know) to make sure it isn't a nutrient deficiency? Since it's primarily wood/sticks should I not worry about it?

She does get a good outing once/day, usually an off-leash area, and she has a playmate (my 12 lb dog) and I have and 2 cats so she has company when I'm at work. I have a dog door that she can use when I am work so she can be outside if she wants/and to go potty (but then I guess she gets unsupervised access to the deck).

I hate the idea of putting a muzzle on her, which I've seen as a recommendation.

Thank you for any insight/input!
 

wrknnwf

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Simple answer...Chewing = pleasure. Pleasure = reinforcement of behavior. Consistent reinforcement = habitual behavior.

It's unlikely that it's a nutritional deficit or pica. More likely boredom or frustration/separation anxiety. And note that this is probably a behavior that doesn't last long, but provides a momentary break from boredom or eases anxiety. If she chewed all day long, you wouldn't have a deck.

I'll bet if you had a nanny cam set up, you would find a pattern in this behavior. If she is frustrated or worried at your leaving for the day, it may occur in the moments right after you leave. If she just gets bored on occasion, it may occur in brief episodes during the day. In the first case (frustration/separation) providing something appropriate for her to chew or an activity (interactive toy) right before you leave, may help. Instead of just leaving toys, bones, etc. in the yard, make a point of tossing something out for her as part of your "getting ready to leave" routine. She has to be aware of it. Don't expect her to make the correct choice between going to look for her toy in the yard or chewing the deck.

When you're home, you need to supervise her constantly when she's outside or has access to those inappropriate objects, and then distract her or wear her out. Since she's been at this for 3 years, it won't be easy or quick, but it's do-able. You will really have to work at this. You can't just turn her out and then go about your routine. You have to watch. The only way to break a habit is to eliminate the behavior entirely, once and for all. If she gets to chew wood on occasion, she is just using variable reinforcement which cements the bad behavior faster. However, don't wait until you see her chewing and then provide a substitute. You may end up teaching her that chewing produces something better, even if it's just your attention. If possible, give her the chew toy, bone, etc. right before the bad behavior occurs. That's why you need to watch her and try to learn when that behavior is about to occur.

Appropriate chew toys/treats/activities have to be more satisfying than chewing the wood. You could try stuffed Kongs, large raw bones (never cooked and assuming no resource guarding in your crew), interactive toys, a sandbox to dig for treats in (may substitute one bad behavior for another...inappropriate digging for inappropriate chewing). Anything that is more fun than chewing on wood. You will have to rotate toys or chewies regularly to keep her interested.

Activities that wear her out and provide mental stimulus, like agility, long walks, swimming, doggie day care, etc., will help some. I see that she gets some of this now, but you may have to add more and/or more often. Try to make these activities unpredictable. If she senses that she's going to the park once a week or taking a walk right before you leave or come home, it won't help break the chewing habit. If the activities occur more often and/or at varying intervals, it's a whole lot more interesting for her.

If possible, cover or barricade her favorite chew targets (inside and out) for now and work on redirecting her behavior. Do not leave her with anyone who isn't prepared to supervise and work to correct this behavior.

And a muzzle only prevents the chewing while it's on. It never addresses the cause and may even make her become despondent and disabled by making her feel vulnerable and unable to communicate with other animals. I wouldn't do it. Never muzzle when you are not there and never muzzle her and turn her loose with other animals. They will take advantage of her disability, people will wonder if she is vicious, and she may become entangled with an object or other animal. There are numerous reasons not to muzzle unless a dog is a dangerous, unpredictable biter. Better off using a crate or restricting access to the doggie door when you're gone.
 
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victoria1140

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We have some chew toys made of wood ,pet ones but cant remember the name of the maker,but its defi etly about redirection.

Good advice above
 

Acadia

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Hmmm...I don't think it is separation anxiety as it is only recently that she has had a dog door to use while I'm at work and furniture, tables etc haven't been touched. Sometimes when I take her out to the dog park field -huge wide open mown field - and throw the ball etc.. for her and my other, she will sometimes just stand chomping on sticks. The outings are different - a couple of times a week it's the dog walker and with me it might be when I get home, or not for a couple of hours - we change it up between the beach, the big field/trail park, neighborhood walks etc...

She is tricky! Any of the "tough" fabric made to stand up to hardcore chewers barely last hours with her. Kongs only interest her if she doesn't have to work to hard at it. She's managed to take split antlers and go at them until they get split and then have sharp points on them. The whole antlers hold no interest for her. Bully sticks last 20 minutes. I can try raw bones again - she didn't seem to know what to make of the one I offered to her last summer and didn't do much with it. I do have puzzle toys but that doesn't keep her busy for long.

I would say boredom for sure, except for how when I take her out, as I said, for off-leash play, sometimes she seems uninterested in play if she can find a stick to chomp on. Or I throw a stick in the water for her to get (not far as she won't swim), and she chomps it up into bits - she used to keep it for awhile so we could play fetch a little. I think she is a girl who needs a lot of interaction. I want to sign her up for Noseworks class as she loves to smell (well don't most dogs?). She has had surgery on both back legs so agility is probably not a good thing, although she goes running off into the woods after the little one, jumping here, jumping there. And I've taken her snowshoeing a number of times this past winter. She needs a busy family with a lot of kids I guess! Thank you for all your great info and advice! And I'm glad you don't recommend a muzzle - when I "googled" online this morning, that was one of the "recommendations" which I would rather let her eat sticks and my deck!
 

wrknnwf

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Ah! Here are some suggestions. When she's at off leash play, try to distract her from the stick chewing. For fetch, choose something other than a stick. She has learned to recognize sticks as play toys, so you have to find a way to eliminate them and convince her that there are other, much nicer things to chew. Just keep working at it. It's not an overnight fix, but she can learn.
 

R Taft

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I do understand your problem...my sweet Yussie was an avid chewer of sticks......she did not have much time in her life to be bored. She had five playmates, hubby at home, who did all sort of training with her and me training her frequently at least three times a day. But she chewed stick, any rough wood and pencils.....we tried all the re-direction, appropriate toys and tough toys, but she would leave them and find a stick. We actually think it is what killed her at 18 months as she had a rupture in her intestine....... I am going to be blunt. YOU HAVE To STOP her....I only say this because of what happened to my beloved Yussie. i would not like anyone to have to go through the guilt I have had about her. I still miss her, she was my smartest , clever easiest to train dog. EXCEPT for that stick -chewing........i wished I had been more adamant and done more to stop it. She preferred sticks over wonderful bones. If I could do it over again, i would most likely start a very strict regime of training and even making the sticks "bad" (taste bad or time-out).......But it is too late for Yussie....So keep at it for Cadie
 
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