what would you do??

only1bmd

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I am at my wits end with my almost 16 year old son. He is basically a good kid who has a good heart and can be a wonderful boy...

However he has taken with hanging with an older crowd who I would discribe as a bunch of dirt bags. My boy is a follower and likes to act like a bad a$$ to fit in and now he is making poor choices.

My first instinct is to tell him he is forbidden to hang with these boys BUT I know it will only make him dig in his heels and want to be with them even more. Another thing that makes it more complicated is that he has ADHD which makes him hard to reason with at times.

Does anyone have some good avice for us??
 

Abbey

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Ah, the teen years. I remember them well. First, everyone of my daughters friends that I liked, she would dump like a hot potato. If on the other hand I couldn't stand them, she would spend every waking moment with them. Sooooo, my solution, envite them over. Tell your son that you want to get to know his friends so you feel more comfortable with him hanging around with them. Then, engage in some really deep, nurdy conversation and I can bet they will dump your son like a hot potato.
 
Whatever you do, please do not adopt a hands-off approach. My aunt and uncle nearly lost their boy to this kind of crowd, but thankfully he is okay, and now with a great woman, due to be married, and has a baby girl.

You'd be amazed what kids do when they aren't around the parents. I am SO NOT looking forward to being a mom of a teenage girl. Any boy who walks through our door will be promptly castrated ;-).

So ... don't invite your boy to my house ;-)

I like the idea of inviting the friends over, and getting to know them. I'd also try and get to know their parents a bit too. Maybe have a big cookout or something while the weather is nice?

Who knows, they could all be the tough-acting gang that is actually pretty mild once around their parents.

Or go spy at a party ... but it would take one heck of a costume ;-)
 

Lisa@Caeles Hills

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Could you get your son in a hobby that you could start with him where maybe he would meet better friends? What about buying a cool muscle car that you work on and show together? I did this in high school and it made me want to get a job to help pay for parts I needed too. Not saying that is what he'd be interested in but there is stuff like trap shooting, golfing, even dog showing that would get him more involved in things that really interest HIM and not just a lot of free time to hang with this rough gang. He might not even really like them all that well but feel he has no choice.
 

ina/puusty

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Fill the fridge with food and beverages that you approve of..and try to find a project soon..where you can 'need help'..on something outside..or inside. Muscle work..be ready to pay a couple of the guys..15 or 20 bucks an hour to move stuff around..clean gutters..whatever..just get them to be paid..and hang around a couple of hours and to see the fridge is stocked!!! After a work experience..which is long enough to 'gauge them'..you will have more info..and can figure out how to proceed. A sport that tires your son..may mean getting spendy equipment/shoes/memberships..but that might help also. Mainly..get to know some of the fellows..and make certain..that you come up with..what your son thinks is a really 'short term'..project..or he will know..it is a ploy. Be certain to muck about for a few days..seeming to 'dither'..about a 'created problem'..in order that your ..'eventual harried'..comments sound 'real'. Good luck, ina n HB
 

ardeagold

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That's a tough one if you work outside the home. He's there....you're not, and it's hard to keep an eye on him during the day.

That's when getting him involved in something he really likes is good. Is he interested in anything that there's a "camp" for? Like Lacrosse camp? Baseball camp? Photography camp? Or some outdoorsey type camp....hiking, boating, etc. That might get him involved with some new friends.

And, don't hesitate to seek help from friends, family and pros if you need it. They can support you and help you maintain your sanity.
 

lola

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Oh, i have no advice as I will be diving into the motherhood soon, but I wish you the best of luck with him. The teenage years are always hard, for me it was only a few years ago and I put my parents through hell. I know my mother secretly wishes I have child like I was (and i hope to god that I don't).
 

noblenewf

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I'm not a parent so I am by no means an expert here. I can just tell you from my own experience. Kind of rebellious as a teen- parents signed me up for multiple sports. Helped tremendously in terms of self esteem and keeping me occupied. I would highly suggest getting him involved in some kind of group activity where he feels he is contributing to some kind of rewarding outcome (i.e. winning a game, finishing a project, etc.). Good luck!
Oh, and inviting the friends over to meet them is a great idea too. My parents used to do this and it drove me nuts at the time but I will tell you that now I realize that they just cared!
 

only1bmd

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Thank you for some pointers...

I will not be taking the hands off approach since I want him to know I am watching him!! What he does not realize is that I was once a teenager and I was no sweet little do gooder myself!!

He is one of 4 boys. The second oldest the oldest NEVER got in trouble so this one kind of surprised me!!

I am going to encourage him to get a part time job to fill up some of his free time. Or my garage needs painting....
 

jlruse

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My son is 16, going on 17 in January. I have been and am still going down this road with him. He started hanging with kids that are "goth" and wanting to dress like them, etc. My solution with him has been compromise. I don't care if he wants to wear the baggy clothes, as long as the pants stay on the hips. I don't care if he wants to die his hair-any color but black. I don't compromise on makeup, tho-I refuse to allow that. Also, as far as him personally, I always reinforce "smart choices" to him. He wants me to trust him, he wants to prove he is trustworthy, I give him some room. I have met his friends, and have to admit that he was right-his friends are nice. The stereotype being that goth=trouble. I only had one incident with him to date pertaining to "friends", and I think my son learned a very valuable lesson from it. Not that I want to repeat it! A job is a good thing for them at that age, projects of any sort, things that expand their horizons, test their smarts, and engage their curiosity. Hope this helps!
 

drulzelot

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When oldest son decided he wanted to dye his hair blue (in the sixth grade, because a "cool" kid did his hair), I said, "No problem". Since this came up at the dinner table, I said, "Hubber, what do you think? Since we are all family, and family needs to support each other and stick together, we will all have to dye our hair the same color." Hub, being the angel he is, and having short salt and pepper hair, agreed, blue would look pretty cool. Dear son, who is platinum blond, looked at my waist-length red hair, and said, "no way! You aren't going to dye your hair, too!?!" Yup, family has to stick together. Daughter started crying, she didn't want blue hair, and younger son was furious. Oldest son looked around at his family and imagined us all sitting there with blue hair, and abandoned the idea. Same with clothing, tattoos, piercings, make-up. If one wants it, we all get a matching "look". Needless to say, my boys are all clean-cut, and daughter dresses conservatively, because when she looks as clothing, I look for a matching look, and believe me, at 40-something, I don't have the same bod as I did at 16, and she doesn't want me picking her up from school dressed in some of the latest styles, LOL!
So keep the idea that family sticks together, and use that to help through your situation. Ina has a great solution, you can have to kids over to help on projects (and if you don't have projects, send them here, I have plenty). His older brothers most likely have more impact and are better able to influence him that you (it's that age). So invite his 'hoots over, his brothers will "know" what kind they are, and will voice any issues they may have. Younger siblings look up to the older ones, and if he has a good relationship with them, they will help him make wiser choices. He will most likely choose friends based on their approval than yours.
From there, you have to trust yourself. You have taught him your values, right from wrong, what's important, etc. Now he must test what he has learned, he will make mistakes, it's better to make them when you are young than older, but the most important thing is he learns from them. Everything has consequences, good ones and bad ones, and he will learn to think a second about what the consequence may be.
The job of a parent is to prepare the child for adulthood and the world outside. When you are deciding how to respond, bear that in mind. Will it prepare him, really give him the tools he needs to deal with the world when you are not there?
Oldest son wanted to play WoW video game (addicting), so I told him he could as long as he joined a sport. No sport, no game. He joined crew, practiced from 2pm -6pm five days a week, and loved it. Played his addicting game a few hours at night, now he is bored with the game and wants exercise equipment. Found out the sports were more rewarding.
Whatever you do, do not voice your disapproval of his 'hoots to him. Maybe talk to your older sons about your concerns, but not to him. Nothing they like more at this age than to keep Mom on the edge of her seat!
Oldest just asked if he could go to a head-bangers concert with his best bud. Sure, as long as his Mom goes,too. (His Mom is a good friend, and I know she wouldn't go, and what could be worse than going to a head bangers concert at the tender age of 16 with your Mom?). This age can be a very fun age......
 

Murphy

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I also went through some turbulent times when Adam was 16-17. Lots of frustration and tears and yes.. very hurt feelings. best advise.. continue to be a parent. don't apologise for trying to keep him out of harms way.. remind him that just because he resists, you are not going away.. you will continue to stand in his way of making poor dangerous choices. Finally, there are some things you cannot control. be kind to yourself and of course always let him know that what you do comes from loving him Good Luck..
 

Tracy

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Does he have any friends that are on the local fire department? This is the perfect age to get into a cadet program.
Tracy
 

Wash

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When I hit 16 and turned into a little jerk my parents cut me off from their money. They made me get the crappiest job they could find for me, this also worked really well for school because there was no way in hell I was going to work that hard the rest of my life for so little money. They also made me buy a car with the money I earned, a really junky one because they werent going to give me rides any where. I am fairly certain that my father picked out the only car on the planet that needed daily work to run. Pretty much had to spend every other day with my father in the garage learning how to fix it so I could get back and forth to my cruddy job.
 

TinaM

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As the mother of a 6 year old boy I have learned quite a bit from this post. Let's hope it helps me ten years from now!!
 

only1bmd

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You guys are great with your ideas!!

Joey is going to be painting our small garage for the next couple of weeks! He took to the idea quite nicely...I was expecting him to say there was no way he was going to do that!

Hopefully he will not get part way through and then back out on me!

Since school starts back up before labor day here I hope to keep him busy enough to stay out of trouble before that. Next we are going to work on getting him a part time job after school so he can save up for a car.
 

sokkia

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Hi Bonnie,
No advice, just taking the pointers along with you. as you know I have two small boys (very busy boys) I can use all the advise I can get! My thoughts are with you on this one though, good luck!
 

NewfDad

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I would echo the fire department idea. Ian is 17 and has been at the department since he turned 16. At this point he has his Fire Fighting I and EMT-B certifications and runs 3 out of every 6 shifts. BTW Firefighting is kind of a home sweet home to folks with ADHD. The situations in firefighting that have that huge intensity are actually kind of calming to those of us with ADHD (I did it for 10 years starting at 16).
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NinaA

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I probably am not one to offer advice, as I have been there too, but with a girl. First, the fire department is a great idea. Something noble and productive. Also, at this age he is beyond heavy influencing by his parents. My two boys were great, never a problem, but my daughter (LD) drove us crazy. We tried to supply structure, the best schools for her learning difficulties, etc. We adopted her at 19 months and her first words the entire first day were a continual string of "no"s. We had two psychologists, one special school, numbers of counselors, etc. Finally, we were told, and this is my advice, you do all the best things that you can for as long as you can and when you can't do anything more, you say "okay, you're on your own, I can't help you any more". They do tend to come around in the long run. At 7 a psychologist told us she would be a great care giver. Today she works at a daycare.
 

AngusMcDubhsMom

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Hang on to your seat, it's going to be a bumpy ride. I feel so much for you. I had 4 teenage girls in the house at one time and the youngest was just like your son. She gave me 4 of the wildest years of my life....now she's a married young businesswoman and you'd never know she was this Goth, runaway, running wild-child when she was 16! (she's 34 now). Lots of good advice here....keep him busy, find projects for him, invite his friends over...and don't stop being MOM. One counselor said to me" imagine her with a sign around her neck that says 'this is a test.'" It's not an easy fix, but hang in there. It will be so worth it if you do.
 
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