Um...if you own a Newf...should you just plan on a cruciate tear?
- Thread starter JLStorm
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I dont think its dumb at all. Im trying to figure out if this is just a coincidence during the last few months, or if the cruciate tear is as wide spread and occurring on a constant basis. Some animals have genetic conditions that you assume will happen and consider yourself lucky if they do not....is this one of them?
SherryNadra
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I had two newfs, littermates. They lived to be 11 years and 11+ years. One got a ruptured cruciate ligament on one hind leg, and the other never did.
KatieB
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You should also take into account that people tend to post when something goes wrong...we're not all starting posts saying "Hey my dog didn't tear their cruciate today"... These types of issues are common in many breeds and it should be something you are well aware of and prepared for either through savings or pet insurance or some other plan when you get a dog of any breed.
And Jen...you made me laugh haha!! Hang in there with Murph!
And Jen...you made me laugh haha!! Hang in there with Murph!
Well let me ask you this then. If you were not keyed into this injury, would it be possible for an owner to assume it was just arthritis or some minor reoccurring injury (similar to an old football injury in humans)? I have had quite a few dogs and been around breeders, show dogs, and adoption programs for much of my childhood and I just never remember hearing about this injury. However, most of the dogs I was around were larger light boned agile hunting dogs other than two mastiffs who were not mine so I do not know their medical histories.
Murphy
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Like I said.. do your homework.. and yes I am very much in tune with this type of injury. My Murphy is 2 1/2 weeks post op from TPLO surgery (look it up).. bottom line.. if you are serious about getting a Newf.. everything is more expensive. and yes they are prone to orthopedic issues.. but then again so are many other breeds.. and a chihuahua can break a leg jumping off a step..
I have been following Murphy's progress as well as a few other Newfs. I ask this group because I trust what they have to say much more than what circulates on the internet. I can find opinions any which way from sunday on the net. I know you are upset over Murphy, but there is no need to take your feelings out on me. BTW, I have read every page of what you have written from before diagnoses to your little gate that you have built.
I think I have a very legitimate question and I would like opinions from owners of this breed on this forum, not from people writing about non-specific breeds with questionable, if any credability on the internet.
So, again, for anyone else who reads this thread my question is: is this problem common enough within this breed that the odds are in favor of this injury over the course of a Newf's life.
ardeagold
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No more so than if you get a Golden, or a Lab, etc. Go look at some of their forums. Cruciate ruptures as prevalent as here.
Our Addie also has a cruciate rupture. BUT she's one of five. So far, the others are just fine. One is 10 years old this month.
I'd suggest insurance. On any breed. They all have their problems, as all living creatures do.
Our Addie also has a cruciate rupture. BUT she's one of five. So far, the others are just fine. One is 10 years old this month.
I'd suggest insurance. On any breed. They all have their problems, as all living creatures do.
Murphy
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Ok .. first let me begin by saying that I am not "taking anything out on you" .. Why would I???.. Secondly.. if you trust information from this forum.. then again.. there is a ton of previous threads and posts about this topic if you want to do a search.. What I had a bit of an issue with was the overall kind of .. Sorry.. it was just dumb.
You want information from owners of the breed.. then I am sure they will chime in.. a few of them have already..
Edited to add.. this is not personal..
Angela
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Definately take out insurance.
When Emma the 10 yr old ruptured her cruciate they were not doing TPLO in western Canada at all.
We had to take her to Seattle WA. That was 1999 and the cost $2000 U.S. (See how the cost has gone up since then)
The Pet Plan paid for 80% of it.
Jeannie, who is cruising somewhere in the Greek Islands has a Newf, Samantha I think, who had the traditional cruciate surgery repair.
When Emma the 10 yr old ruptured her cruciate they were not doing TPLO in western Canada at all.
We had to take her to Seattle WA. That was 1999 and the cost $2000 U.S. (See how the cost has gone up since then)
The Pet Plan paid for 80% of it.
Jeannie, who is cruising somewhere in the Greek Islands has a Newf, Samantha I think, who had the traditional cruciate surgery repair.
Im definitely taking out insurance and trying to save a few bucks a week as well. I was debating it before, but I have since changed my mind. I would definitely have the surgery, but Im in the group that would have to beg, borrow, and steal to afford it, unless I just put it on a credit card or took out a loan without the insurance.
Lkorzen
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For what it's worth, I had a rescued rottweiler who ruptured his cruciate. At the time we were told that it is an injury that alot of large and giant breed dogs get who are active. We were told that everything from the type of flooring to the different games you play with the dog have to do with which dogs will or will not get a cruciate tear or rupture. Our rottie ruptured his cruciate while chasing a frisbee over a patch of ice.
Murphy
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Did I miss something??? I apologize.. I didn't realize you already have a Newf?? I have been known to be confused before.. Perhaps it stems from lack of sleep.. :snore:
No you didnt miss anything. I have been talking to my breeder a lot about this year and her plans of who to breed and the time is getting closer. And, coincidentally my company just announced that it is laying off 3000 people. I will either be getting a promised promotion allowing me to stop traveling and get my Newf, I will be stuck in limbo with a possible salary cut, or I will get laid off. I am trying to figure out worst case scenarios so that I do not make a decision on emotion when my breeder says she has a Newf for us. This is a large expense and part of the reason why Im seeking more information on the occurrence within the breed.
CMDRTED
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NCA is funding a study on this. But at the same time, I personally (Knnock of Wood, Fingers Crossed) had this problem (Thank Dog!). My personal opinion, and that of some others is that it goes through certain breed lines. Although there is no apparent proof of this, there are strong suspicions.