Training Class Saga-Happy Ending! (LONG!)

Puppypeoplenj

New member
Hey All! Orca's first Gotcha Day was last week, Feb. 9th. Things have been so crazy that we haven't celebrated it yet, but I'm planning on making him a celebratory cupcake and we'll all sing to him sometime soon. He won't know the difference anyway. :roflmao:

Anyway, some of you know that I was super excited to get Orca into a "terrible teens" themed training class a few weeks ago. I though the class would be great because I'd read a thousand great reviews about the trainer online, I talked with her via email before the class, and she seemed very knowledgable and in control the first class, including giving us an action plan (first step, get him a Herm Sprenger prong collar and get the pulling under control). Then, mid-week we had a pulling disaster: icy sidewalk, martingale collar, 40 MPH speed limit main road, and...a herd of deer. Long story short, everyone was okay but I was pretty shaken up and had to call my SO to pick us up from our walk because I couldn't get Orca under control (we've been working so hard on "focus" too! And it had been working in the house!)

So, I get to the next week's class, Orca drags me down the hall toward the other dogs, and the assistant trainer comes out to help me. The main trainer ends up having to leave and the assistant spends the whole class using Orca to demonstrate leash manners. He shows me how to use a choke collar and, at my insistence, shows me the proper fit and positioning of the prong collar as well. Well, at some point he has Orca on lead in one hand with the martingale, and a LEASH REACTIVE DOG (so the owners think and having been trying to impress upon the trainers) on leash on the other hand. As he's demonstrating something, the other dog turns, snarls, bites down on Orca's nose and lips, and shakes while Orca makes the highest pitched whine of pain I've ever heard. I'm obviously horrified. Orca's bleeding, I'm crying, and the man turns to me and says "Well, these things happen with dogs. But it's actually good that this happened because now you know how I would handle it." Horrifying. The rest of the class, Orca keeps one eye on the other dog, and growls with his lips pulled back whenever he gets too close.

Anyway, I wrote a letter, pulled Orca out of the class, and got a refund. But I tried the prong collar the way the trainer demonstrated yesterday and today, and guys, IT WORKS! I'm had pleasant, episode free walks with him! I was so afraid to take him out before with the pulling and the ice, but I feel so much more confident now and he's getting back to his regular walks (1-2, of 1-1.5 miles each). I feel gleeful. So, after that awful class, something good has come out of it.

The prong collar is the best this that has ever happened to us. And now we need a new training class. :(
 

CathyC.

New member
Oh my goodness. What a horrible thing at class. It really was negligent. I hope orca isn't afraid of dogs now. Maybe carry treats on walks and give them out when you meet a dog and when you want orca to focus on you? Or a toy...

Glad you are getting to walk again. It will surely help the situation.
 

Jeannie

Super Moderator
How stupid! Glad you got a refund!

IMO a prong collar is the best for controlling dogs. Glad you found a solution!
 

victoria1140

Active member
I would have been so angry at that assistant.the first rule is make training positive and to allow that to happen is inexcusable. Also the blase comment would have had me tearing a strip of him.


Glad the prong is working for you
 

R Taft

Active member
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. I do a lot of classes, every Tuesday and Thursday, plus weekends Water training.......this so should not happen.

We have had an incident between two dog when they arrived on the first day, but the trainer should be able to quicly read the dogs and put distance between them. And it the Trainer actually has the dog on leash, it should never have happened

I am not sure how it goes in the USA, but here we do have trainers that are qualified..........You go through training at NDTF for a year (Nationa Dog Trainers Federation) and you can also become a Member of APDT, I like the APDT Member as they use positive reinforcement training.........if they have no qualifiactions, you should not use them.......Trainers should be aware of dog behaviour.

Sadly there are no rules or regulations in Australia as to who can put out a shingle to train, but at least there are places for people to learn how to be a trainer and they are qualified.

It is something that should not have happened and if it did, some work should have been done afterwards to work with the dogs...BAT system, to at least allow the non-aggresor to cope again.

Sorry this happened to you..... I would definitly make an issue out of this, so it cannot happen again
 
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