Other People's Dogs (rant)

[AubreyMo]

So I just took my boys for a late night walk. We get about half a block away from my house when I hear another dog freaking out and my heart drops. You guessed it, it wasn't on a leash and came charging across the street!

I had Ollie loose and following us (frankly, it's easier without his leash crossing with Moose's legs) and Moose just on a flat collar, no prong since it was so late. The snow has melted but my roads and sidewalks are still really icy...and sure enough, Moose pulled, I went flying spectacularly onto my hip, and the damn poodle tried to kill Moose. Thankfully, Moose has NO sensor for when a dog means business and was super friendly...and Ollie just kind of sat back and waited for it all to be done. I however, completely LOST it and was screaming my lungs out at the dog to get away.

It just kills me that some people don't keep their dogs inside or fenced/tied. I'm sure glad I had a dependable newf on a leash and a non-aggressive chiweenie, or that could have been awful. I can just imagine what'll happen when that dog meets a less socialized bunch, and it won't be pretty.

I had my husband post on our neighborhoods facebook that whoever owns that dog needs to lock it up asap since it attacked us, and could easily get attacked itself (had it gotten close enough to my shoes, it WOULD have...just saying. I'd do anything to protect my boys).

So there's my rant for you. Send some ice for my hip?

 

[mrs big dogs]

Glad you did not get any more injuries.
When something like that happens my newfies stick up for eachother, and that poodle, boy would be ranting too

 

[AubreyMo]

Glad you did not get any more injuries.
When something like that happens my newfies stick up for eachother, and that poodle, boy would be ranting too

I think if it had went after Ollie, the situation would have been different and Moose would have defended his "brother". Ollie, on the other hand was glad to have someone going after Moose for a change. He literally sat back to watch the show - glad it was entertaining for someone, Ollie!

 

[rue2014]

Yea i know the feeling before i moved i always used to have this one house that always had there silly little dog out and the owners never did anything. thank god we moved.

 

[lmfoltyn]

Our neighborhood is bad with everyone but us letting their dogs roam free. It is so dangerous, I worry for this animals that someone will be ran over. When we did take Jake for walks, (before all this snow) we had occasional run ins with one dog in particular who is NOT at all friendly. Jake of course wanted to play but this dog wanted to fight. It took everything I had to keep them apart...not a fun experience at all. I am glad you didn't get hurt more...

 

[Mjwalters17]

Yes, people sometimes are not careful with their pets. During the summer months we have to deal with lots of vacationers letting their dogs run loose and it is never fun!

 

[snowdog]

Ouch! Hope your hip is feeling better today. Pets off leash drives me nuts! A couple years ago I was walking with my then 2 and 4 year old furless kids and my golden on a leash when a yellow lab ran into the street from his garage and starting fighting with my dog. My 2 year old ended up UNDER the fighting dogs at one point. It was horrifying. No injuries thank God but now I take the offensive any time a dog is off leash while we are out. Our trainer says to put your dog behind you in a sit and tell the oncoming dog to go home - loudly if necessary. It has worked several times while on walks and the other owners are always so quick to tell me how friendly and sweet their off leash dog is - like I'm the bad guy for controlling their dog. Makes me furious. Oh - and Tink got attacked by a daschund last summer on a trail that is clearly designated LEASH ONLY. Sorry for the long rant - but I totally understand your frustration. So backwards that the good dogs are the ones that are on the leash.

 

[AubreyMo]

WAIT. IT GETS BETTER.

So my husband posts this last night on our community facebook group:
Hi! Walking our dogs tonight ended up with a white poodle running at us on the south end of Cozy Lane. Normally I wouldn't care, but we have a 150 pound Newfoundland to hold back with ice under our feet. Locking up your dogs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Some asshat responds:
Would it be wrong of me to say something about 150 lbs dog?!?
If you choose to own a dog of that size Maybe just maybe be willing to keep it under control?! What if it was my child it decided it didn't like?
Again would it be wrong?

(ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!? Need I remind this idiot that it was not MY dog doing the attacking!)

My husband (who is sooo not a dog guy) totally stood up for us:
Our dog isn't the one that got out of control. Also, this dog is one test away from becoming a state-registered hospital therapy dog for disabled children and senior citizens, so there's not much of a danger.

The Newfoundland breed is a very large, but borderline lazy and extremely family friendly, so the odds of it attacking a person are slim to none. Rest assured, it was on a leash like it legally should be. Also, our dog didn't run at this poodle, but when another unchained dog shows aggression, things have a way of getting interesting regardless of if the dog is 150 lbs or not, that's why there are leash laws.

I just don't want this poodle to run across the street and get nailed by a car, like we've seen in the past with somebody's cat.

Also, to answer your question of whether it would be wrong to assume a hypothetical - yes, yes it would.

 

[Ksullivan]

On my road the Sherriff lives. He has a Shihtzu, not putting down a Shihtzu because I also have one. The Sheriff mind you is around attack dogs at his work all the time, and he is terrified of our Sully (Sully is the most non violent dog you would ever meet--he is afraid of his own shadow). When I walk the road and run into him he is afraid, and if Sully is in our yard (invisible fence) and this Sheriff walks to the end of the road (which buts up to our property) he is terrified.
This winter my father (who is 90) came home from Florida for a funeral and stayed with us. He was ill, and would not go to the hospital, so I called an ambulance. When the ambulance came this Sheriff came charging into our home, after I met the ambulance and him outside, and said it was my father. He came into our home and very sternly asked if my dogs were locked up. He only came into our home to look around (my husband is a gun colecter) he just wanted to be nosey he doesn't like us and we know this.
To me in our area police have turned into Nazi's.
It is amazing just because a dog is large some people have bad opinions of them, when they do not even know the dog, and obviously know nothing about the breed.

 

[lmfoltyn]

Yeah....good for hubby!! Don't you just hate these a holes?!! Our dogs who are leashed just want to love on others and then here comes the non leashed aggressive dog and it ends up being OUR fault...amazing!

 

[AubreyMo]

Yeah....good for hubby!! Don't you just hate these a holes?!! Our dogs who are leashed just want to love on others and then here comes the non leashed aggressive dog and it ends up being OUR fault...amazing!

Yep! I just responded to him and said, " Ryan if you have an issue with the size of my dog, may I invite you to come meet him before you jump to the conclusion that he's out of control and therefore a danger to your children? This is the SECOND time I have been attacked by this poodle. I think he's far more of an issue than my gentle giant and you should be more worried about your kids around that poodle that is running at large than my Moose, who is always on a leash and well mannered. Again like my husband said I was walking over ice at the time and took a bad spill. My dog was well behaved and didn't fight back - he only wanted to greet the other dog. Please look past your bias of big dogs and see the issue at hand: we are trying to keep a Poodle from getting killed by a car or by another dog (not mine), and keep the owners from a vet bill or an impound fee."

 

[Goldiluxe]

My husband (who is sooo not a dog guy) totally stood up for us:
Our dog isn't the one that got out of control. Also, this dog is one test away from becoming a state-registered hospital therapy dog for disabled children and senior citizens, so there's not much of a danger.

The Newfoundland breed is a very large, but borderline lazy and extremely family friendly, so the odds of it attacking a person are slim to none. Rest assured, it was on a leash like it legally should be. Also, our dog didn't run at this poodle, but when another unchained dog shows aggression, things have a way of getting interesting regardless of if the dog is 150 lbs or not, that's why there are leash laws.

LOVE your hubbys response! I couldn't have worded it more perfectly if I tried! I'm interested in what the jerk replied with. There's certainly not much that could be said after that, thats for sure.

 

[snowdog]

Outrageous. I wonder if you were too nice when you gently suggested said poodle needed to be leashed/locked up to make sure the poodle didn't get hurt. Ummmm what about your hip? Lucky for them you didn't need to go to the doctor. The bill would have been the responsibility of the poodle owner. It probably wouldn't make things better but it seems you would be clearly within your rights to find poodle owner and have the police issue a warning for dog off leash - you could have been hurt even worse - and if it had been someone older it only takes one slip to break a hip.

 

[AubreyMo]

LOVE your hubbys response! I couldn't have worded it more perfectly if I tried! I'm interested in what the jerk replied with. There's certainly not much that could be said after that, thats for sure.

So far, he hasn't said anything. I really hope he takes me up on the offer to come meet Moose - I'd love to see the look on his face when Moose tries to kiss his kids to death.

Honestly though, bugs me that there is a mean dog running wild and yet he tries to scold ME for the size of my dog. Doesn't he know it's not the big Newfoundland dog you have to worry about...it's the owner!

 

[Murphy]

When you say you had Ollie loose and following.. you mean on a long line???

And I agree.. one of the reasons I am nervous to walk Monty is because of dogs off leash charging us. I could not control him if that happened

 

[AubreyMo]

Outrageous. I wonder if you were too nice when you gently suggested said poodle needed to be leashed/locked up to make sure the poodle didn't get hurt. Ummmm what about your hip? Lucky for them you didn't need to go to the doctor. The bill would have been the responsibility of the poodle owner. It probably wouldn't make things better but it seems you would be clearly within your rights to find poodle owner and have the police issue a warning for dog off leash - you could have been hurt even worse - and if it had been someone older it only takes one slip to break a hip.

Exactly. Clearly he took my husbands "150 pounds of newf is a lot to hold back" as a "THIS DOG WILL KILL YOUR KIDS" type of warning - when really, I just couldn't get traction on the ice when Moose tightened the lead to go greet the other dog. It was BITING him. Literally going for the jugular and our Mr. Moose just stayed so polite.

I know it's not his dog, which is why I was trying to warn the neighborhood at larege that whoever it is needs to lock up their dog before it gets an impound fee, vet bills, or gets killed by another dog or a car (people speed like crazy in my neighborhood). I know I shouldn't have taken the bait and snapped back at him, but really? Telling me to control my dog while he is being attacked, who is *this close* to his CGC...who didn't even fight back. It's outrageous.

And obviously he's never owned dogs and understood that sometimes you just can't control them or you lose control for two seconds while another dog comes running at you for the kill.

 

[AubreyMo]

Tempted to terrify this guy by telling him that we're getting ANOTHER newf this year...

 

[AubreyMo]

When you say you had Ollie loose and following.. you mean on a long line???

And I agree.. one of the reasons I am nervous to walk Monty is because of dogs off leash charging us. I could not control him if that happened

Nope - it was late with no traffic and Ollie is 100% dependable so I let him go completely leashless! Other than occasionally stopping to pee, he will just follow along on my right side. Very dependable. Moose cannot be trusted off leash, but is well behaved when he's one one, and both of my dogs are fantastic at greeting other people and dogs, which is why it didn't escalate into a dog fight. THANK GOODNESS because I would have hated pulling poodle hair out of Moose's teeth for weeks!

 

[cmorgan.1505]

lol We have had to call the cops over the people across the street allowing their dogs to come into OUR yard and use the potty! I hated having it done, but we don't have any issues now and if it does happen, it's so rare now. She has two wennie dogs and they would run into the street and in everyones yards, well...we were about to bring Thor home and there was no telling what shots they did or did not have. I figure if you can't keep your dog at home and care about them, then why would you bother with shots.

 

[AubreyMo]

lol We have had to call the cops over the people across the street allowing their dogs to come into OUR yard and use the potty! I hated having it done, but we don't have any issues now and if it does happen, it's so rare now. She has two wennie dogs and they would run into the street and in everyones yards, well...we were about to bring Thor home and there was no telling what shots they did or did not have. I figure if you can't keep your dog at home and care about them, then why would you bother with shots.

Yep exactly. Is it bad that I hope Moose gave this poodle a bad case of lice? :devil3:

Plus I'm only trying to help. Last week a cat got hit in our neighborhood from people speeding...so I'm sure this dog will either get hit by a car, or wind up at the vet from fighting. It was literally a house and a half away when it charged and attacked us, and stalked us for a block. It's aggressive!