Garden_girl
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I'm not even sure how to start this ~
There may be two different things at issue here or they may be connected to each other, but I welcome opinions, suggestions, etc.
On Memorial day, I was in the kitchen getting dinner ready for the dogs. Tucker (just turned 5) was right next to me, supervising.
All of a sudden, he took off like a shot bellowing, and moaning throughout the house, he was running full speed and full on everything, vocally. This running and all the vocalization carried on for about 5 minutes, until I was able to catch him and hold on to him to calm him down. Later that evening, I was outdoors with him, and noticed he always tried to keep me on his right side. I showed him a treat and noticed that his left eye was not following the treat, temporary blindness in the left eye, I believe.
It was the most bizarre behavior I've ever witnessed in a dog and so frightening for all of us. Of course, he refused supper. He was panting heavily afterward, it was the hottest day of the year so far, but he calmed down except for the panting. Not so unusual, all the dogs were panting that day, Tucker panting a little faster than the others. Anyway, it happened two more times after the initial instance about 2 hours apart, but these were just mini-episodes, a little bellowing & he started to run, but stopped, these lasted about 30 seconds each. I stayed by Tuckers' side that night, I was mostly worried about bloat from the stress of the episodes, they seemed to have really frightened him. That's the background to this story.
In the morning I called my Vet, he was on vacation. I had to see a different Vet in a different office, as my Vet is the only Vet in his practice. I need to back-up for a second, a while back, there was a thread on NN about seizures. I remembered Ginny posting something about psychomotor seizures, also called complex partial seizures. From another website:
"Complex Partial Seizures (a.k.a. Psychomotor or Behavioral Seizures) are associated with bizarre or complex behaviors that are repeated during each seizure. People with complex partial seizures experience distortions of thought, perception or emotion (usually fear), sometimes with unusual visual, olfactory, auditory and gustatory sensations. If dogs experience the same things, it may explain the lip-smacking, chewing, fly biting, aggression, vocalization, hysterical running, cowering or hiding, in otherwise normal animals. Vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal distress, salivation, blindness, unusual thirst or appetite, and flank biting are other signs. There is an obvious lack of awareness though usually not lack of consciousness. Abnormal behaviors may last minutes or hours and can be followed by a generalized seizure."
I took this information to the Vet with me (along with stroke information). I think she ran about every test possible, his temp was 104.5. Everything looked good, except Tucker's white count was slightly elevated, after further testing, she suspected either a bladder or prostate infection, his urine sample showed bacteria.
She prescribed Enrofloxacin for the infection and Deramaxx. She told me to take a urine sample back when he was done with the meds as prostate infections last longer than bladder infections. I asked her about the episode(s), she said that's what the Deramaxx is for. She believed that the bizarre behavior was caused by pain.
On Thursday, my Vet was back from vacation, John took Tucker in to see him. He did a rectal exam and discovered Tucker's prostate was slightly enlarged. He also discounted the notion that he had a seizure, but wouldn't completely rule out a stroke. He said if it ever happens again to check his eyes, because if it's a stroke, his eyes would more than likely move back and forth rapidly. Because of the enlarged prostate, the Vet suggested that we neuter Tucker and we will as soon as the infection has cleared up. He did a full thyroid panel with Dr. Dodds. Tucker's thyroid is normal. My breeder has never heard of anything like this before, but would concur with Vet #2, it happened because of the pain or stroke.
My question - has anyone every experienced anything like this before? I am very familiar with seizures (Grand Mal) they are quite the opposite, but the duration is the same.
Thanks for reading this very long post, Tucker has been back to normal since visiting the first Vet, eyesight regained, as well. I am trying to prevent this from ever happening again.
There may be two different things at issue here or they may be connected to each other, but I welcome opinions, suggestions, etc.
On Memorial day, I was in the kitchen getting dinner ready for the dogs. Tucker (just turned 5) was right next to me, supervising.
All of a sudden, he took off like a shot bellowing, and moaning throughout the house, he was running full speed and full on everything, vocally. This running and all the vocalization carried on for about 5 minutes, until I was able to catch him and hold on to him to calm him down. Later that evening, I was outdoors with him, and noticed he always tried to keep me on his right side. I showed him a treat and noticed that his left eye was not following the treat, temporary blindness in the left eye, I believe.It was the most bizarre behavior I've ever witnessed in a dog and so frightening for all of us. Of course, he refused supper. He was panting heavily afterward, it was the hottest day of the year so far, but he calmed down except for the panting. Not so unusual, all the dogs were panting that day, Tucker panting a little faster than the others. Anyway, it happened two more times after the initial instance about 2 hours apart, but these were just mini-episodes, a little bellowing & he started to run, but stopped, these lasted about 30 seconds each. I stayed by Tuckers' side that night, I was mostly worried about bloat from the stress of the episodes, they seemed to have really frightened him. That's the background to this story.
In the morning I called my Vet, he was on vacation. I had to see a different Vet in a different office, as my Vet is the only Vet in his practice. I need to back-up for a second, a while back, there was a thread on NN about seizures. I remembered Ginny posting something about psychomotor seizures, also called complex partial seizures. From another website:
"Complex Partial Seizures (a.k.a. Psychomotor or Behavioral Seizures) are associated with bizarre or complex behaviors that are repeated during each seizure. People with complex partial seizures experience distortions of thought, perception or emotion (usually fear), sometimes with unusual visual, olfactory, auditory and gustatory sensations. If dogs experience the same things, it may explain the lip-smacking, chewing, fly biting, aggression, vocalization, hysterical running, cowering or hiding, in otherwise normal animals. Vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal distress, salivation, blindness, unusual thirst or appetite, and flank biting are other signs. There is an obvious lack of awareness though usually not lack of consciousness. Abnormal behaviors may last minutes or hours and can be followed by a generalized seizure."
I took this information to the Vet with me (along with stroke information). I think she ran about every test possible, his temp was 104.5. Everything looked good, except Tucker's white count was slightly elevated, after further testing, she suspected either a bladder or prostate infection, his urine sample showed bacteria.
She prescribed Enrofloxacin for the infection and Deramaxx. She told me to take a urine sample back when he was done with the meds as prostate infections last longer than bladder infections. I asked her about the episode(s), she said that's what the Deramaxx is for. She believed that the bizarre behavior was caused by pain.
On Thursday, my Vet was back from vacation, John took Tucker in to see him. He did a rectal exam and discovered Tucker's prostate was slightly enlarged. He also discounted the notion that he had a seizure, but wouldn't completely rule out a stroke. He said if it ever happens again to check his eyes, because if it's a stroke, his eyes would more than likely move back and forth rapidly. Because of the enlarged prostate, the Vet suggested that we neuter Tucker and we will as soon as the infection has cleared up. He did a full thyroid panel with Dr. Dodds. Tucker's thyroid is normal. My breeder has never heard of anything like this before, but would concur with Vet #2, it happened because of the pain or stroke.
My question - has anyone every experienced anything like this before? I am very familiar with seizures (Grand Mal) they are quite the opposite, but the duration is the same.
Thanks for reading this very long post, Tucker has been back to normal since visiting the first Vet, eyesight regained, as well. I am trying to prevent this from ever happening again.
