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Cascadians

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Hi MaryLou, filled it out.

My Newf Orka is my service dog. I have autism with spatial deficits so do not drive yet. One of Orka's tasks will be hauling a wagon for me to the store and back to get groceries.

I am able to bring Orka into a store because he is my service dog but have experimented with hitching him up outside and observing.

Leaving a Newf outside the store is not a good idea because:

Too many cars whizzing around.
Ppl shove shopping carts at the line and miss.
Ppl use motorized assistance vehicles and do not drive them carefully.
Ppl will not and cannot resist coming up to a Newf and petting, playing, touching the equipment.
Ppl will leave their small children outside with the Newf while they go in to shop, with no supervision.
I have actually heard ppl talking about whether they can get away with stealing the dog and / or equipment.
I have had ppl warn me about deliberate kicking or poisoning.
I have had ppl warn me about allergies / fear of dogs / dislike of dogs.

From my limited experience so far I would recommend a Newf owner never leaving a Newf tied outside any store. The level of ignorance and disrespect out there is shocking.

I will be locking Orka's wagon (Wilczek) with a bike cable outside the store entrance, out of the way, with permission of the manager, and hope nobody tries to steal or vandalize it. But I will always take Orka inside with me and wherever I go.

A note about backpacking: in Canada they have the Newf follow behind the hiker.

I have been training Orka for joring (pulling activities with a bungee line) and one drives the dog verbally from behind, and trains a lot off leash for bomb proofing. Driving the dog from behind works really well and becomes applicable to many sports. I like to see him ahead of me and he likes to lead. He has learned not to chase bunnies, rabbits, cats, squirrels, deer or horses.

Hope if the NCA adds backpacking the deciders will try hiking with the Newf in front and also behind. I think it is much more enjoyable with the Newf in front. Takes a lot of work and hours to train but once the dog knows the commands and understands what is expected it is extremely useful. And this skill can branch out to so many practical helpful activities.
 

Cascadians

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We have neighbors around the corner with a husky, beautiful friendly girl.

They left her outside the neighborhood store a couple minutes tied and 2 little girls decided they had "finders keepers" rights and wanted her to be their dog.

Long story short these neighbors are continually having to prevent the 2 little girls from coming to their yard and "borrowing" Elsa the husky.

It is hard enough to own, care for and train a Newf without also needing to give moral and character education to the neighborhood children (and some adults). Once the Newf is seen and known there is more risk, as there is with any beautiful appealing dog.

Wanted to post these aspects so tying a dog outside a store is very carefully considered.
 

R Taft

Active member
A note about backpacking: in Canada they have the Newf follow behind the hiker.

I have been training Orka for joring (pulling activities with a bungee line) and one drives the dog verbally from behind, and trains a lot off leash for bomb proofing. Driving the dog from behind works really well and becomes applicable to many sports. I like to see him ahead of me and he likes to lead. He has learned not to chase bunnies, rabbits, cats, squirrels, deer or horses.
I have trained the dogs to do both...if they only have the back pack on they know they stay behind..........If we have our pulling harness on they pull out front.

I use this in Assistance dog training, for pulling wheelchairs, but the dog has to know to also stay behind in some shopping centers, unless called forward, due to lack of space. So you can teach both with a verbal command or change of 'outfit"

Katy/Annabelle/Tessa now even know that with the cart they wait for command to go beside, behind or ahead.

I just wish we had drafting here of any kind ...it is very lonely here in Australia :) Ronnie
 
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Cascadians

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Ronnie, when I take Orka into stores I have him go in front of me responding to directional joring commands. The aisles are narrow and his tails wags, not room for side-by-side.

He knows alongside.

Ronnie, what advantage does going in back of confer? I have not been able to figure it out.
 

Arktos

New member
I like this idea of another level in draft. Up here we have a DD and a DDX.
Angela,

What does the Canadian DDX have different from the DD? One day I hope to do some of the Canadian tests, but unfortunately not with my current Newfs (Nahkohe is ineligible as PAL I believe).

-Amanda
 

Angela

Super Moderator
Was Nahkohe a rescue? If he has a # down there you can get a similar one here if you want to trial him here.

Canadian DDX has manoeuvering course beside the cart and then behind the cart.
Load is 60 lb.
Backpacking is 1/2 mile.
Hardest part is directing the dog to do the manoeuvering from behind the cart.
 
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