well, the chicken bone passed, but...

scout

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ARGH
Atticus has gotten into something else. He spent the night at the emergency vet clinic (luckily, we live just a highway exit away from Michigan State University vet clinic)under close observation.

Yesterday, he started vomiting EVERYWHERE. HUGE puddles. Then the diarrhea started. Atticus was SO mortified and sorry. He would vomit, then go hang his head by the back door. By the second hour of this, I was packing him into the car. I thought he had either raided the trash, eaten one of my son's plastic dinosaurs, or munched enough mulch to make a cork. The on-call vet thought it must be an obstruction, did xrays, blood panels, and fed him barium to get a good look at his upper GI.

The vet called last night to say that everything was inconclusive and she wanted to know how aggressive I wanted her to be. I told her that she was NOT to cut him open and root around in there unless she had definitive information that he was blocked up. Good thing I said that. She called early this morning and said that new xrays showed he was improving and that there was no obstruction. She's keeping him for the rest of the day to see how he eats and I can pick up my boy this evening.

Now to figure out what he ate to make him so sick. I'm thinking it might have been some dead rhododendron leaves that dropped off the plant in the mulch he was munching on. I didn't see any dead leaves, or mulch, in the gallons he puked up, but I'm moving the shrubs to the front yard where he doesn't get to hang out. Last night, the kids and I cleaned the yard of any small objects and hosed the yard down since Atticus made such a mess back there.

Do any of you have any ideas about what else could have caused this? What causes violent vomiting and diarrhea in a dog besides blockage or plant poisoning? A bad batch of dog food maybe? I just opened a new bag.
 

Sailorgirl

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I don't know what could have caused it (I doubt it was dog food) but how scary for you! So glad it sounds like Atticus is gonna be ok!
 

Sue M.

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Scout,
See the Thread I just posted in the Food and Diet section.
Topic: Warning: Sugarless gum and candy - Xylitol
Could Atticus have gotten ahold of some sugarless gum or mints?
 

sarnewfie

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Do you fertilize your lawn?
do neighbors poison mice and bunies?
do you have stagnant water?
do you use any kind of chemicals at all in the yard?
do you think the neighbors might have thrown something into your yard?
is the mulch stained?
is it wood?
i would never use anything stained, or colored.
 

IrishMist428

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What kind of mulch was he eating? Cocoa Mulch, which is sold by Home Depot, and other Garden supply stores, contains a lethal ingredient called Theobromine. It is lethal to dogs and cats. It smells like chocolate and it really attracts dogs.

[ 08-07-2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: IrishMist ]
 

sooozsimmons

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On subject of plants & poison, do you have any "Oleander" in your yard? We were advised to remove any from our plot (especially if you have a dog prone to chewing leaves etc..)as All parts are poison to dogs in very small amounts(even inhaling smoke when burning leaves in Autumn is SUPPOSED to be a risky business).
 

scout

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wow...lots of questions to answer.

mulch - it's unstained pine bark

chemicals - I have a toddler in the house. NO chemicals in the yard, and very few in the house. In fact, I'm putting white vinegar and a drop of dishsoap in the Floormate instead of the floor cleaner. No chemicals on the neighbors' yards either. We all love our gardens, but care very little for the grass.

water - because of mosquitos, we make sure there is no standing water, though the bats take care of much of that problem

table scraps - he gets bites of cooked, diced meat sometimes. no bones. sometimes little bits of gristle or fat.

neighbors - we are a dog loving neighborhood. I count 15 dogs on my block alone.

bunnies - we have lots. no one seems to mind. squirrels are caught in live traps and relocated by all the neighbors.

oleander - I'm pretty sure we don't have any. At least, not intentionally. Lots of weeds in the backyard, but kept mowed really short. Atticus knows to stay out of my perennial garden, and I went through the plants today and made sure that there wasn't anything bad there.

See why I'm at a loss?
could it be some kind of illness not related to poisoning?
 

sarnewfie

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while he was at the vet i assume he had full workup of blood?
if not, i would have that done to be sure all is well.
was it hot?
if it was extremly hot and muggy they can get sick from that.
 

ardeagold

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Pancreatitis? My Keeshond had it, and that's the only time I saw anything like you describe.

However, if he's in good shape in one day, it isn't that. Most dogs need 3-4 days of IV therapy when they have Pancreatitis. Then it's on to a special diet at least for 8 weeks. (High fiber, very low fat)

Hopefully Atticus is doing well, and it was just a 48 hr bug. I swear dogs can get them too...just like us.
 

KS Newf

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I have nothing useful to say except I am so sorry, am glad Atticus is on the mend , and I know from my own midnight runs to Med Vet how absolutely terrifying this is. It's such a wild card what he might have gotten into!!
Thank you Lord that Atticus in doing better. Prayers and positive energy coming your way.
 

scout

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Thanks to all of you for your support and advice!

Atticus still isn't home. He's on IV fluids, and had another bout of diarrhea today so the vet is still watching him. The bloodwork came back indicating some kind of infection, low protein, and high enzymes...there's more I'm sure, but that's all I got out of the vet on the phone. She says it indicates some kind of liver issue, which would make sense with an accidental poisoning. She said she's giving him a small amount of food (he hasn't eaten in 24 hours! and I'm kind of worried about that) and if he keeps it down, he can come home tonight. Good thing too...Scout has gone off her food missing Atticus. She spent most of the day wandering from window to window looking lost and sad. I'm going to follow up with my regular vet, who I trust much more, first thing tomorrow.

I had hubby dig up the rhododendrons and take them to his sister's house (no dogs there) and the kids picked up all debris around the holes. I went around the yard and pulled some wild morning glories, and anything else he might get into. I've completely cleaned the first floor of the house, put everything away, made sure the kids knew how to shut the trash door (it has a baby latch on it) and scrubbed the floors. I don't even know what to do about the kids' rooms, which have toys everywhere that are totally uncontainable, but my room is a dog safe room. geesh....I didn't work this hard babyproofing. Puppy proofing is definitely harder.


Thanks again!
 

scout

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okay folks. He's home and happy. Scout's happy too...in fact, too happy. I had to put her in her crate for a little cooling off.

A vet student went through the test with me, said that the only thing the xrays showed was lots of gas (bloat???) and he was going to be fine. Canned purina EN for a couple of days and then slowly introducing his regular food. Antibiotics twice a day. The best part? Certainly that Atticus will be fine, but also that the bill wasn't $600 like I thought it would be. More like $300. The receptionist was even surprised and rechecked it for me.

Again, thanks for all your thoughts and prayers.
 

Kelleyk

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Glad that things are OK now. Stanley's limp seems so minor after reading your situation. It's nice to know that MSU is nearby - and that I probably wouldn't have to max out the home equity loan to pay their expertise. Have a good end of your summer. Go make some memoriesfor your family before the grind resumes.
 

KS Newf

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I am so thankful Atticus got to come home. What a nightmare!! So glad he's better, and Scout is calmer (after a "rest period"
). Good news!!!
 
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