stacking

[Sherrie]

I noticed at the National there were alot of Newfs being stacked like a German Shephard. Is this a coming trend I am blissfully not aware of. I do live in the "outback". We have been showing for 6 years and finished both girls but this is the first time I have run across this. This was done in Arabs years ago to improve the way the topline looked.
Am I the only one that noticed this in BOB?

 

[janices]

No, you're not the only one who noticed it. Someone I know commented to me they thought they saw quite a bit of over angulation this time all around.

[ 05-08-2007, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: janices ]

 

[nowhavethreebears]

Dear Lord, I hope this is not a growing trend. The American breeders have ruined the shepherds (JMHO, folks). I can't bear to think this might start happening to our newfs.

 

[Ivoryudx]

'Stacked like a German Shepherd'??

I take it your talking about stacking 'both' back legs far out from under the body? Not like a German Shepherd where one back leg is stacked under the body and one set behind?

 

[Ohana Mom]

I was wondering the same thing- can you be more specific as to what you meant? I was there too and did not notice anything out of the ordinary for the majority.

 

[wrknnwf]

I noticed it in some National photos and yes, the dog was stacked with one hind leg out from the other like German Shepards. I just thought it was a dog that had stepped out of it's stack.

 

[DreamTime Newfs]

Newfs are stacked a bit differently in Europe at times. The hind leg that faces the judge is placed slightly further out then the hind leg that is closest to the handler.
I was not at the Nationals so I do not know what everyone saw. Maybe the ones that were stacked differently were the European Newfs.

 

[Sherrie]

What I saw was both hind legs together way out back. I noticed it in the final cut for BOB. I would say there were at least 5-6 newfs stacked that way. None of the winner were thank goodness so maybe this will not be continued.

 

[Bluedog]

If the the hocks are still perpendicular to the ground, when stacked the way you described, then I'd hazard a guess that those Newfs could be a bit over angulated in the rear. I have seen also some handlers stack the rear feet way back to compensate for topline faults (high in the rear), and weak hocks (down on the hocks). Of course when you do that, it throws off the angulation. If they were stacked one rear foot in front of the other, like a GSD, then it's probably because the Newf just step out of the stack temprorarily, or the handler may not have noticed the rear foot out of place.

 

[janices]

I saw the European handlers stacking as described which I've seen before. I was paying more attention to the newfs I had notes on I came in to see and didn't stay until the end of BOB judging since it seemed to be running late. Had to get on the road back to get to a halfway point and ahead of the weather coming across again.

[ 05-09-2007, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: janices ]

 

[DBaker]

I saw what you are talking about at the Nationals. It is not a proper stack, it was over extended. The reason most people do this is to make the hock perpendicular to the floor. I'm not saying anything against the Newfs in the breed ring, but sometimes it is done to cover up poor angulation. They were over stacked. A NATURAL free stack is the true stack.