recall

[littlerosieuk]

Recall

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What is the correct procedure when your dogs knows the recall and the one time in twenty chooses to ignore you. Do you go to the dog and correct or do you run the opposite way. If you wait until the dog comes to you then it thinks a five minute recall is ok.

Just wondering how to sort this out as we have a good recall but not a perfect recall and I would love a perfect recall as it is so important for their safety.

Anyone got any ideas?

Janet

 

[Ivoryudx]

You walk the dog down. You tell them, 'come' once, and then you hold your hand out and walk with authority towards your dog. Changing direction to follow your dog if he is going away from you. You say nothing else. Preferably this is in a fenced in area. IF at any time the dog turns back towards you, or comes, allowing you to catch him, then you must praise and treat. IF the dog never turns back to you, or the only reason you to catch it is because its cornered, or sniffing something, then you are okay to correct.

Make sense?

 

[janices]

Have you recalled the dog and the fun is over. Recall dog, let's go. Hmmm, what have we unknowingly setup. Dog thinks I come, we're going, funs over, I don't get to do what I'm doing. Recalling and letting them go back to game/play/session/activity so they don't associate come with ending something.

I would probably setup something like accomplice needed with distraction, dog let play, recall, no come, another recall, pull out emergency treats if needed, dog comes, no treats given, nothing said, backup somewhat and do another come, get the recall, treat so they learn come the first time. If no come accomplice ends all play and the fun is immediately taken away. Setting up learning that game resumes if I come and ends if I don't.

Then set up to do a lot of recalls and play release a lot of times until the last one which ends with play session with owner, good belly rubs which doesn't seem to bad to come to owner and go.

There's another thing can setup outside of recall emergency recall que if you know the distraction is so that the recall won't work, as what's the single most important thing that would get the dog to respond back to you or turn and look so you can pull the attention back, maybe 'treats'.

Depends on your definition on correcting a recall cause I would never punish dog when don't come to make them think it's a big mistake to come back to me.

 

[littlerosieuk]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I know that recall should not only be because its time to go home so try to call the dogs about four or five times on a walk, give a treat and they go play again.I just wanted to know how to deal with the times when they are too busy sniffing or running to take notice.

I dont know if its just my Newfs but they always want to be the other side of the hedge or running around in crazy circles and suffer from selective deafness at times.

Winston sets off in full gallop for a minute or so and frightens me at times but he does come back and is just crazy running but we can have a problem when he sees people. Is it better to use the stop command and keep practicing that or to try the recall when he has seen some poor person to pounce on

Janet

 

[Ivoryudx]

Once you do the 'walk down' a couple of times, and he understands there are no other options or your going to come and get him, he will turn and come to you on command. This makes it perfectly clear in his mind that you require his attention when you tell him something, and that you are going to make it happen if he does not comply.

You do not 'practice' on people until you can get his attention everywhere else. There is no reason to expect him to come when a person is involved, if he won't do it just because he is sniffing a bush.

Another option....
You can let them drag a long line and randomly call. If they don't come, than you have a way to make them come and remind them that you are the one that is more important than whatever they were doing. This can be worked in many places, church yards, school yards, tennis courts, etc until you have an immediate return. Then you can add people with them still dragging a long line and work it the same way.

As far as Winston taking off at a full gallop...is that as soon as you let them loose that he does it? If so, he needs to learn a boundary. He needs to know he can gallop so far and then must come back or settle. A long line works great for this too, and you can verbally warn him before he gets to the end of it. Eventually he will turn on the warning with no line. Watch him, many dogs habitually count strides. They always take the same number of strides to do different things. He probably has a set number of strides he takes when he gallops, before he turns. You just need to change the number so he turns quicker.

 

[Sailorgirl]

Originally posted by Ivoryudx:
Watch him, many dogs habitually count strides. They always take the same number of strides to do different things. He probably has a set number of strides he takes when he gallops, before he turns. You just need to change the number so he turns quicker.

That is totally fascinating and something I've never heard before. I'm going to check that one out!

 

[littlerosieuk]

Thanks Susan for the good advise. We will get practising.

As far as counting his steps his legs go way too fast but I will try to count in seconds

I am usually too worried about what mud or water he is going to charge through.

I have a lunge rein which I have used as a long line so I will practise with that and see how we go.

Janet

 

[littlerosieuk]

Janice thanks for your advise too.

As far as correcting for ignoring recall what I meant is should I be firm if I have to go across a field to fetch him and tell him bad boy or just go get him and say nothing.

Janet