Pup diagnosed with CHD (Canine Hip Dysplasia)
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sarnewfie
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Miyax
here is another thought for you,. i would also wait until 32 months to do penn hip here is why
when morgan was 7 months old, she would not walk on one rear leg, and was in full blown heat, during this heat cycle, she was also in an odd growth spurt, the laxity in her joint was unbelievable, so my vet put her on grapeseed extract capsules, 3 a day, along with all the vit c her bowels could tolerate, so after 2 days of this regime, she was back to normal, now had i dont penn hip at that time, odds are that one hip would not have passed when now, that i waited till she was DONE growing, look at her score now http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Haven/4505/mpennh.html
also about the gluc chond
if you guys go to this site. http://www.springtimeinc.com
you can look at the GL wich is the gluc.
and the JFlex wich is the chond.
look at the milligram doseage.
i give in the AM 1/4 teaspoon the JFlex and in the evening 1/2 teaspoon the GL
i belive this to be more effective than the people stuff, i know i tried the people stuff, it did not work for myself, but when i switched myself and the dogs to this stuff, wowza! instant relief for me! good luck!
[This message has been edited by sarnewfie (edited 03-04-2002).]
here is another thought for you,. i would also wait until 32 months to do penn hip here is why
when morgan was 7 months old, she would not walk on one rear leg, and was in full blown heat, during this heat cycle, she was also in an odd growth spurt, the laxity in her joint was unbelievable, so my vet put her on grapeseed extract capsules, 3 a day, along with all the vit c her bowels could tolerate, so after 2 days of this regime, she was back to normal, now had i dont penn hip at that time, odds are that one hip would not have passed when now, that i waited till she was DONE growing, look at her score now http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Haven/4505/mpennh.html
also about the gluc chond
if you guys go to this site. http://www.springtimeinc.com
you can look at the GL wich is the gluc.
and the JFlex wich is the chond.
look at the milligram doseage.
i give in the AM 1/4 teaspoon the JFlex and in the evening 1/2 teaspoon the GL
i belive this to be more effective than the people stuff, i know i tried the people stuff, it did not work for myself, but when i switched myself and the dogs to this stuff, wowza! instant relief for me! good luck!
[This message has been edited by sarnewfie (edited 03-04-2002).]
Sound Bay Newfs
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Linda - I give my dogs 1000 mg. per day. My vet said I could give up to 1500 divided up in the morning and evening. So you are OK with what you have. You should try different things, though, and see what works for you. This is what works for me. That doesn't mean other products aren't as good. I've also noticed that the Iams senior food I use has it in it also.
Lynn
Lynn
Sound Bay Newfs
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I also wanted to mention that I spoke to the breeder I visited regarding hip dysplasia. Here's her opinion on the subject. "Hip dysplasia is usually checked at about 1 yr. If it is a pet it doesn't have to be checked at all unless you are having a problem. In Newfoundlands, it is about a 30 percent chance that the dog will have some form of dysplasis. A very small percentage get drippling dysplasia. You can have Penn Hip done on the dog at 4 months of age. It is expensive and not necessary unless you were desperate to know for showing purposes."
Just thought I'd pass this along.
Lynn
Just thought I'd pass this along.
Lynn
sarnewfie
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I disagree to an extent, i dont consider it desperate, to penn hip pups AT 4 months, no sooner (as it is not allowed) and no later, due to the fact that growth spurts do affect the hips to some extent.
i require my people to do it, becouse, if they get a reading with one hip showing laxity, they MUST not let that pup do steps without guiding that pup, limiting the steps to once up a day and once down a day.
they must not let that pup get banged around by other dogs, and take precautions, until 32 months, at wich time most are pretty solid, that they may get a better reading due to swimming the dog daily or as much as possible for the main excersise.
to each his own,i feel better knowing the health of all my pups that i produce and therefore the penn hip comes in handy for many things, not including that of desperation.
i require my people to do it, becouse, if they get a reading with one hip showing laxity, they MUST not let that pup do steps without guiding that pup, limiting the steps to once up a day and once down a day.
they must not let that pup get banged around by other dogs, and take precautions, until 32 months, at wich time most are pretty solid, that they may get a better reading due to swimming the dog daily or as much as possible for the main excersise.
to each his own,i feel better knowing the health of all my pups that i produce and therefore the penn hip comes in handy for many things, not including that of desperation.
Sound Bay Newfs
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Thanks, Sarnewfie for your reply. I actually put that quote in with hope I would get a reaction from other newf.netters and get different opinions. I can see your point and I can somewhat see her's. But I guess we can all agree on the fact that we are all trying to do the best for our newf friends.
Lynn
Lynn
sarnewfie
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NewfYork, i hope you didnt think i was talking down to you, many apologies. your post stated the opinion was that of the breeder,
i forget sometimes to do smiley faces and sometimes i type to fast.
arrrgggggg
Also
one very important note, i believe all newfs should be screened,and put into the data base, with scores/or grades pass or fail, or high on the tight hip scale, or low on the tight hip scale. that way breeders can keep track of how many siblings in each litter may or may not be affected, ofa and penn hip are necessary tools for EVERYONE involved.
the tools we use, can help that buyer to take precautions that may not have been otherwise taken, and thus leads to more severe problems than necessary.
[This message has been edited by sarnewfie (edited 03-05-2002).]
arrrgggggg
Also
one very important note, i believe all newfs should be screened,and put into the data base, with scores/or grades pass or fail, or high on the tight hip scale, or low on the tight hip scale. that way breeders can keep track of how many siblings in each litter may or may not be affected, ofa and penn hip are necessary tools for EVERYONE involved.
the tools we use, can help that buyer to take precautions that may not have been otherwise taken, and thus leads to more severe problems than necessary.
[This message has been edited by sarnewfie (edited 03-05-2002).]
Sound Bay Newfs
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Sarnewfie - No offense taken. I value your input, that's why I put in that it was the opinion of the breeder and not necessarily my own. I've somewhat seen both sides of the coin. One of my dogs was x-rayed and did have a bad hip. But if I never had it done, I would never know it. At 5, she tears around like a 1 yr. old. But my 9 yr. old, which was never x-rayed obviously has a problem which has shown up in the last couple of yrs. I'm trying to learn here, so I value everyone's opinion so I can do the best for my newf when I get her. Thanks,
Lynn
Lynn
sarnewfie
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Thanx NewfYork.
as far as your 9 year old i am sorry to hear that.
what i did for emmett that works wonders, i swear he acts 3 years old when he is actually 8 1/2, he lived a full active busy life. when a youngster he injured his hip due to yours truly, he was pulling a wagon with bricks in it, a no no when they are 8 months of age, needless to say, i learned from my terrible mistake/
now, since he had been active in SAR he really got beat up.
the Vit E 400 IU works with Vit C and the GL and Jflex, he never limps. never is stiff.
though he still drags that one rear foot a bit once in a while, that from an injury in the field while on a search, but anyway, this may or may not work for your old guy.
2 400 IU Vit E, along with the Vit C and the Jflex in the morning.
1 400 IU Vit E along with the Vit C and the GL in the afternoon.
try it.
i hope you can pinpoint what it is with your old boy.
one is never done learning, i am constantly learning new things.
dogs are my life, you could say my life revolves around them.
as far as your 9 year old i am sorry to hear that.
what i did for emmett that works wonders, i swear he acts 3 years old when he is actually 8 1/2, he lived a full active busy life. when a youngster he injured his hip due to yours truly, he was pulling a wagon with bricks in it, a no no when they are 8 months of age, needless to say, i learned from my terrible mistake/
now, since he had been active in SAR he really got beat up.
the Vit E 400 IU works with Vit C and the GL and Jflex, he never limps. never is stiff.
though he still drags that one rear foot a bit once in a while, that from an injury in the field while on a search, but anyway, this may or may not work for your old guy.
2 400 IU Vit E, along with the Vit C and the Jflex in the morning.
1 400 IU Vit E along with the Vit C and the GL in the afternoon.
try it.
i hope you can pinpoint what it is with your old boy.
one is never done learning, i am constantly learning new things.
dogs are my life, you could say my life revolves around them.
Sound Bay Newfs
Active member
I ordered from www.springtimeinc.com per sarnewfie's recommendation. Thanks sarnewfie. These products look good so I am going to try them for my 9 yr. old and I'm adding vit E. I hope this helps.
Lynn
Lynn
Sound Bay Newfs
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Thanks, sarnewfie and Miyax for the recommendation to the springtimeinc website and their products. I purchased the Fresh Factors for my 9 yr. old dog, and I am seeing a major improvement in just 5 days!! He definately is up and around more, does not seem to be in pain as much, and his coat is no longer coarse, dull and ashen looking. His coat is now soft, black and shiny and he gets up and comes to greet me at the door the way he used to. He still favors his back left leg, but it doesn't seem to hold him back like it used to. It is nice to see him with a little spring in his step. I also have him on a vit. C/chondroitin complex and add vit. E. I am so glad I took your advise and called Springtime!
Lynn
Lynn
JerseyGirl
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Hi everyone-
We just had Monty neutered and the vet also did an x-ray of his hips. Vet says he has moderate hip dysplaia in the right hip. Needless to say I was sooo upset but I remembered reading about it here. I read all the postings and feel better and I know it might not be that bad. But when I first heard the words hip dysplasia my heart just broke.
What type of glucosaine and chordroiten do you use. There are so many brands I don't know where to begin. I looked up the springtime site and since Monty is only 9 months old is he too young to use there supplements.
Thanks..
We just had Monty neutered and the vet also did an x-ray of his hips. Vet says he has moderate hip dysplaia in the right hip. Needless to say I was sooo upset but I remembered reading about it here. I read all the postings and feel better and I know it might not be that bad. But when I first heard the words hip dysplasia my heart just broke.
What type of glucosaine and chordroiten do you use. There are so many brands I don't know where to begin. I looked up the springtime site and since Monty is only 9 months old is he too young to use there supplements.
Thanks..
We have a 6 year old Bernese Mountain Dog as well as our Newf mix Noel. Our Berner was diagnosed at 8 months with Displaysia. We saw very little notice of it unless we took a long walk.. then she would walk stiffly for a day. We tried Chon & Gluco at age 3 just to see if she would improve and she did, so at our vets advise we stopped using it so it would help when she really needed it. Well this winter we could really see her slow down - so we put her back on at 1500 a day.. she improved in days and now we will maintain at 1000 a day. We also keep her weight low ( 70/80 lbs ) we take short multiple walks and we have her on large breed senior Eukanuba which also gives her gluco & chon. She chases our pup around like a pup herself... it is not a death sentence.. you just have to help them be comfortable. I am not sure I would turn to surgery unless she could not get around.
Kaye
Kaye