Newf and Poodle
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tonkatruck
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AngusMcDubhsMom
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So isn't that a "Noodle?"
I refuse to use those cute names for the various "designer dog" crosses. People get mad if you refer to their dog as a "poodle-labrador mix." They say, "No it's a labradoodle and I paid $1200 for it." I ask them what the difference is between a labradoodle and a poodle-lab crossbreed. Two people have told me, "Well there's a difference because my dog has papers!"
My parakeet has papers too, at the bottom of his cage.
My parakeet has papers too, at the bottom of his cage.
Jenn
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Actually I have been battling 3 back yard breeders locally who do cross the Newf and Pyrs. I usually have a handful for adoption from these people. = (
He just had one that had 8 puppies selling them as purebred Newfs in the paper. *sigh*
He was giving up both females to me but balked the last minute when I went to get the last female there.
Animal Control went there today to investigate. Nothing can be done until next time unless they find the puppies abused or neglected. I have many horror stories about these 3 indiduals..
I have 4 right now from these scum.
He just had one that had 8 puppies selling them as purebred Newfs in the paper. *sigh*
He was giving up both females to me but balked the last minute when I went to get the last female there.
Animal Control went there today to investigate. Nothing can be done until next time unless they find the puppies abused or neglected. I have many horror stories about these 3 indiduals..
I have 4 right now from these scum.
BoundlessNewfs
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The advertisement says that they purposely breed their newf and poodle "to produce healthy, non-shedding...blah, blah, blah". I want to know how many generations of these crosses they have raised, and are they all truly "non-shedding" and "healthy". Do they produce exact replicas of themselves when they are bred with other "newfoodles with papers". Sheesh....and more colorful language, too....but I won't use it here.
adamclough
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How dare they. How dare any owner of a pure bred animal croos breed it with any other breed. I do not understand why anyone would want to cross breed. The point of breeding is continue the integrity, and further the breed. Not to play scientist and experiment. My family raises Friesians, (horses), and in that community many are cross bred with race horses. This totally ruins the breed, especially as there are so few in the states. These people that do this are basically excommunicated from the society. If I want a cross breed I will go to the shelters and rescue one, which we do often. By definition I can not think of anything to call this or anyother new cross breed but "MUTT". For shame.
Sound Bay Newfs
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I asked the same question of my friend that has a labradoodle pup. I asked what the hair would look like when the pup matured. She said they all can be different and you never know what they will look like, color too. Some have the curls of a poodle and some have straighter hair. They all are called labradoodles whether or not a poodle and lab are bred together or two labradoodles are bred together. So I would think it would be the same for this newf mix.
Personally I think when the AKC recognizes these mixes, then it adds credibility to this practice. To me they are basically purebred mixes!?
[ 09-05-2005, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: NewfYork ]
BluwaterNewfs
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AKC is NOT recognizing these mixes. The "papers" these people are getting are from registeries that will give papers to anything. Many of the puppy mills use these registeries. Many are listed in the back of magazines likr Dog Fancy & Dog World.
Sound Bay Newfs
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I know the AKC doesn't recognize these mixes, but I was told that they are considering recognizing the labradoodle since it is becoming more popular as a service dog.
ardeagold
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Lynn...I think it takes a LONG time for the AKC to recognize any "new" breed. Generations of proven bloodlines must exist. And, there has to be a parent Breed Club...with a standard, etc.
Many breeds originated from a "mix". Goldens sure did.... But, the mix has to have a purpose, and a papertrail. The AKC then deals with the parent Breed Club...after determining which one the true parent will be of course. Many "new" breeds have different Breed Clubs claiming to be the "true" parent club.
I don't know if the Labradoodles, or Goldendoodles, etc, even have an organization calling them a "breed" yet. Is anybody doing this for anything except money? That's the big issue here.
It takes eons to create a new breed, and then longer for the AKC to recognize that breed.
Many breeds originated from a "mix". Goldens sure did.... But, the mix has to have a purpose, and a papertrail. The AKC then deals with the parent Breed Club...after determining which one the true parent will be of course. Many "new" breeds have different Breed Clubs claiming to be the "true" parent club.
I don't know if the Labradoodles, or Goldendoodles, etc, even have an organization calling them a "breed" yet. Is anybody doing this for anything except money? That's the big issue here.
It takes eons to create a new breed, and then longer for the AKC to recognize that breed.
sooozsimmons
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For once, words (ALMOST) fail me."WHY, oh WHY?".........