Flaxseed - good or bad?
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McNewfie
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Yes, I have also heard that it is not good for women trying to have babies. It hasn't affected my males sperm because it was just tested and has a high concentration and good motility and morphality. I had a female a few months ago who had an ultrasound done and it counted at least 8 puppies. When it came closer to the due date she wasn't getting and larger, so I had an xray done and there were no puppies! I wonder if the flaxseed had something to do with it. I have had successful litters while feeding my females food with flaxseed in it...
Sound Bay Newfs
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Flax seed is high in omega 3 fatty acids which are good for healthy skin and coat. I used products and food that contain flax seed and have never had a fertility problem with my girl. Pups can be reabsorbed for unknown reasons and would seem unlikely that it would be from flax seed.
Doing some research, I found this article:
"The movement by dog owners and concerned breeders to provide their dogs with the highest quality and most nutritious dog food, has led to a gradual return to natural type ingredients for use in animal feeds by the large dog food manufactures. As this group of ultimate consumers has become more educated about what goes into their pet's daily diet, they have become more discriminating about their choices of the brands on the market.
Flaxseed is receiving a lot of attention for many reasons...is one of a few vegetable sources that contain the essential fatty acid (EFA) omega-3. In dogs, the addition of flaxseed in the diet is apparent in increased activity, healthier coats and skin and in a higher resistance towards diseases."
Doing some research, I found this article:
"The movement by dog owners and concerned breeders to provide their dogs with the highest quality and most nutritious dog food, has led to a gradual return to natural type ingredients for use in animal feeds by the large dog food manufactures. As this group of ultimate consumers has become more educated about what goes into their pet's daily diet, they have become more discriminating about their choices of the brands on the market.
Flaxseed is receiving a lot of attention for many reasons...is one of a few vegetable sources that contain the essential fatty acid (EFA) omega-3. In dogs, the addition of flaxseed in the diet is apparent in increased activity, healthier coats and skin and in a higher resistance towards diseases."
Bluedog
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I think the concern comes from the fact that Flaxseed contains plant estrogen. It is often recommended for woman going through menopause as a alternative to estrogen replacement therapy.
I'm not versed in canine pregnancy physiology and how hormones affect sustaining a pregnancy. I know that canines process and metabolize plant matter differently from human, but is it possible that the plant estrogen found in flax seed can affect the hormone levels during pregnancy? Might it increase estrogen, thereby decreasing or affecting the level of progesterone required to sustain a pregnancy?
Here is a site that talks about the affects of estrogen on canine termination of pregnancy: http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/reprod/petpop/terminate.html
I'm not versed in canine pregnancy physiology and how hormones affect sustaining a pregnancy. I know that canines process and metabolize plant matter differently from human, but is it possible that the plant estrogen found in flax seed can affect the hormone levels during pregnancy? Might it increase estrogen, thereby decreasing or affecting the level of progesterone required to sustain a pregnancy?
Here is a site that talks about the affects of estrogen on canine termination of pregnancy: http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/reprod/petpop/terminate.html
sarnewfie
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another thing, newfoundlands are hard to breed, it is a fact and, reabsorbtion is a regular happening in some breeding programs.
A newf breeder in the 10 years of breeding may have about three reabsorbtions, for whatever reason they still are not sure.
So many get into this with the feelings it is a cakewalk and they will make $$ when they could not be further from the truth.
A newf breeder in the 10 years of breeding may have about three reabsorbtions, for whatever reason they still are not sure.
So many get into this with the feelings it is a cakewalk and they will make $$ when they could not be further from the truth.
McNewfie
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Thanks for all of your input. I will read the article and search for some more info on this.
>>>So many get into this with the feelings it is a cakewalk and they will make $$ when they could not be further from the truth.<<<
How did this come into the topic of flaxseed? Those who breed know that it isn't a "cakewalk" and not a way to make $$...
[ 10-04-2007, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Jeannie ]
>>>So many get into this with the feelings it is a cakewalk and they will make $$ when they could not be further from the truth.<<<
How did this come into the topic of flaxseed? Those who breed know that it isn't a "cakewalk" and not a way to make $$...
[ 10-04-2007, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Jeannie ]
sarnewfie
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becouse some people read this thinking it is a cakewalk, and need to know it is not.
why take it personal? it was not worded to be that way. and i dont consider it a hijack, it may not even be the flaxseed, the absorbtion has been going on since before flaxseed was added to dog food or even thought to be added as a suppliment.
so it is possible that it is something else.
i am curious why you changed your name?
http://www.newf.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000308;p=1
mrsmcfly isnt that you mcnewf?
[ 09-28-2007, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: sarnewfie ]
why take it personal? it was not worded to be that way. and i dont consider it a hijack, it may not even be the flaxseed, the absorbtion has been going on since before flaxseed was added to dog food or even thought to be added as a suppliment.
so it is possible that it is something else.
i am curious why you changed your name?
http://www.newf.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000308;p=1
mrsmcfly isnt that you mcnewf?
[ 09-28-2007, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: sarnewfie ]
McNewfie
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Not taken personally, I just wondered why it came up with this subject. I appreciate all of the input on this subject.
Yes, I changed my call name. I had been here a while ago and somehow couldn't get back on with mrsmcfly. I have started to change a lot of my call names to McNewfie (decided this when I got a personalized licens plate McNewfie and my last name is McFall,edited to take out advertisement...). So, "mrsmcfly" is no more and is "McNewfie", to answer your question.
[ 10-04-2007, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Jeannie ]
Yes, I changed my call name. I had been here a while ago and somehow couldn't get back on with mrsmcfly. I have started to change a lot of my call names to McNewfie (decided this when I got a personalized licens plate McNewfie and my last name is McFall,edited to take out advertisement...). So, "mrsmcfly" is no more and is "McNewfie", to answer your question.
[ 10-04-2007, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Jeannie ]
rcantor
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The ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acids eaten will affect prostaglandin synthesis and prostaglandins do play a role in fetal-maternal functioning. Whether the amount of flax seed in food is enough to have an effect or not would have to be studied. It would be difficult because storage conditions make a huge difference in how much omega 3 survives to enter the dog.
Sound Bay Newfs
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Inflight does contain flax, and has been used successfully for years. Maybe the quantity is significant.
