Dry Mouth breeders on Long Island?

tkdbarb

Inactive Member
Hi. My family and I are looking into getting a Newfie to join the family.

Just gathering information. Have heard there are such dogs as "dry mouth" dogs? Anyone know if there are reputable breeders on Long Island?

I think we would prefer a black pup, but really doesn't matter.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Additional thanks to those who replied to my post on the Long Island Newf Net.

Have a great day.

Barb
 

Elizabeth

New member
Naa, no dry mouth breeders. The thing that makes one newf dryer than another is it's flews-lips.
I'd have to say that drool is the least of your worries when wanting a newf :D

Elizabeth
 

MGoBlue

New member
I don't know about breeders in your area, but I'll refer you GAD's link to the Newf-L FAQ regarding drool & dry-mouthed Newfs: Dry-Mouthed Newfs

I thought that Newfs drool as a result of their head structure. The way that it was explained to me is that Newfies are bred for swimming. Their mouths are such that they can open the front part of the mouth to breathe while swimming, yet the sides (flews) have extra skin that stays shut, acting as a water barrier. It is this extra skin that causes them to drool (they can't control it.) For this reason, I would be wary of anyone who advertises "dry mouth" Newfs, because I would think that Newfs that don't drool wouldn't have proper head structure. (although in my experience, it seems that ALL Newfs drool...at the very least, they leak all over the place when drinking water...)

In your breeder search, most people on this forum will direct you to the Newfoundland Club of America (NCA) for a list of reputable breeders.

Good luck.
 

kzdz

New member
I think "dry-mouth" is a relative term when it comes to newfs. Yes, newfs drool, but some drool more than others. So, when someone is advertising their newfs as dry-mouth, that doesn't necessarily mean you will never encounter a flooger. But it may happen less often than with others.

Kelli

P.S. 1/2 the fun in owning a newf is grossing out your friends and keeping those pesky relatives away! ;)
 

tkdbarb

Inactive Member
Thanks for the info.

Kellie, you made me laugh. I'd love a way to keep the relatives away!! LOL :D

I'm going to meet some great people on Long Island in a couple weeks. Lots of Newfs at a play date. Will surely pick up some info there.

Thanks again for the replies.

Barb
 

dbradley

New member
Being owned by a newf is definitely a good way to keep unwanted relatives away!

If it is the west hills playdate you are talking about, i will see you there!
 

Kodiak

New member
Barb, you're in for a treat at the playdate. You'll see so many newfs. Some just seem to drool more than others, but, that wouldn't stop me from owning a newf. The temperament of the breed outweighs any drool.
 

NewfLove

New member
Drooling... kind of like snoring. People complain about it - until it's gone.

Allie used to drool (of course) and shake her head and, well, you all know. Slime on the walls, ceiling, etc. There are places in our house that still have our beloved, angel Allie's drool. My favorite is a framed baby picture of her on our "family wall." It is so appropriate for slime to be on it. And, it will stay there.

You guys are right! Sometimes they really DO keep the relatives (especially the out-laws) away!

And, thanks for the explanation about why they drool. I've always wondered.

d
 

sarnewfie

New member
i have owned many a dry mouthed newf, they swam like fish and had no trouble breathing while in the water, i have been around long enough to see fads come and go, and when the heads are messed with someone will make a theory as to why they are drooling or why the eyes sag so much, etc etc.....
personally, if a breeders selling point is dry mouthed stay clear, i have 2 girls that rarely drool, they are messy after drinking, but rarely do i see a shoestring hanging, and if there is one it is barely noticeable, my emmett only drooled around food or excitement upon company first coming over, again very minimal, and hardly evern and than i have sydney who is a messy drinker and with food or excitement, esp a pretty girlie newf, will have a shoestring hanging, all of mine swam on a regular basis, in deep water and none of them, not one, was not able to breath or was choking down water becouse their flews were not oversized.
so if you are looking for a newf, best thing is to visit the individual breeders on your list, look at the structure, and study the lines, ask lots of questions and interract with them, get dirty with them, enjoy them, and decide wich "type" is the type you like
 

alexmaddy

New member
Maybe I'm wrong, but I've learned that when breeders claim to breed dry mouthed newfies, they are not reputable breeders. Have you ever seen the drool factor listed as part of the newfie standard that should be bred against? No. You see first and foremost - temperament, then hips, heart eyes, topline, etc... and not necessarily in that order.

It is possible to have a newf that is fairly drymouthed. I own one that really only drools after a big drink of water and is relatively drool free at all other times. Some newfies are regular drool factories.

Now, very simple genetics seems to point to the fact that if you breed two dry mouthed newfies, you might get some dry mouthed newfies in the litter. But who in their right mind breeds for this trait??????? And I'm sure the genetics are much more complicated than I just indicated. Someone breeding for dry mouthed newfies is breeding for dry mouth above all those other breed standards listed above.

I am not a breeder, nor do I play one on TV. This sounds very fishy to me, however.

Do I love drool? No. I even say yuck sometimes when I wipe it from Maddy's mouth. But it's part of the package, and I'm happy to deal with it.

MJ

[ 09-12-2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: alexmaddy ]
 
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