Deciding

[piercjo]

Hello all,
I have not posted too much, but I do check in. I have a decsion.There was a ad selling a newf 2 years old. Mother of dog died.She does not want to breed anymore purbreds. She(the dog) is 140 lbs.The owner is breeding the newf/pry/st.benard mixes. She does not know about the hips. Just can not really keep her any more.What do you do? One part of me says get the dog out of there.the other part for a lot of reasons says leave it alone.What do you think? Guideance please!!!!

 

[Annie Milliron]

Contact NCNC Rescue for guidance. They won't be able to buy the dog, but they may be able to convince her to surrender the dog to rescue, who will then make sure the dog is placed in an approved home. Here's a link to their website:

NCNC Rescue

Also, several of NCNC members are on NN. They may be able to offer insight to you.

 

[Jenn]

Is the dog a purebred or mix? Guess I got confused.

 

[krispykeith]

When I was went to visit my now 5 year old the woman took a phone call and was in a somewhat heated debate with the person on the phone, insisting there was no way she was giving the dog away under any circumstances. I am guessing that was a newf rescue rep on the phone.

I purchased her and would do it again in the same situation in a heartbeat.

I understand both sides of the debate on purchasing and whether it contributes to the problem. I guess I just tend to believe that if in THAT situation I could provide a better life for THAT dog I was doing a good thing.

Unless you think there is a possibility of a person surrendering the dog to the rescue group (which would be the ideal choice), I would base your decision on whether you want to/are able to give the dog a better home and nothing else.

Just my opinion.

[ 10-10-2005, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: krispykeith ]

 

[Leslie]

I'd take her out. It would kill me to think she sold her to someone who would breed the crap out her or something. Your heart will lead you right?

I've always understood the issue with purchasing rescues is that if rescue uses money to buy a dog, then that's less money they have to actually rescue. Is that right you rescue folks?

 

[Jeannie]

Only you can decide if you want to take on this newf or not. If she/he is not lame because of her hips then she may be OK. I hear from my customers all the time that their dog is getting old so the hips are getting bad. Whatever their hips are at the age of two will be how thier hips will be for life. (unless injured) That is why OFA will not certify hips until the age of two. As they get older they may develope problems due to arthritis in the joints.

I got 3 newfs from rescue. I didn't know how any of their hips were. Rescue didn't know. I have not had any problems at all with any of their hips. Sara passed at the age of almost 13 and Panda is now 11. Samatha is 7.

Rescue most likey will not have the hips certified or x-rayed unless there is an obvious problem.

 

[Ivoryudx]

The 'overall' reason why the NCA voted to stop purchasing Newfoundlands was because of auction prices, and the way the ballot was worded when put forward.

The prices paid at certain auctions for a single dog, were totally outrageous and it SEEMED that those who were doing the purchasing did not set a limit as to what they would pay. Hence thousands of dollars paid to mills who did not guarantee that they were not going out and purchasing more Newfoundlands to breed. Years later, it is still unclear IF purchasing created a larger more profitable market for mills, or helped get them out of the business of breeding Newfoundlands.

When the ballot was put together, for NCA members to vote on this issue, it was either, you voted for, or against, the purchase of Newfoundlands. It had nothing in it for single purchases from BYB, or desperate situations, where purchasing a breeding pair from an ad in the paper would DIRECTLY help stop more litters from being produced. It pretty much tied the hands of many rescue people and is still a tough issue for many to accept.

If the asking price is not much, or your considering adopting her as your own, then do whatever it takes to get her out of there asap. If you are not in a position to take her, or to foster her for a while, then you need to try and help educate the current owner on what a good home would be, and try to get them to understand that her 'producing' days are over and she deserves to be spayed and in a good pet home, and Rescue can help with that.

Very sad, I hope and pray she gets a good home!

Susan

[ 10-10-2005, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: Ivoryudx ]

 

[sarnewfie]

iold age is old age, we have good hips, but as we age they get weak and sore and deteriorated, so to do other living beings.
muscle deterioration is a contributor to weak rear ends on elderly dogs, and hips can get arthritus in older years to, due to loss of muscle tissue.no one has bothered to ofa an 9 or 10 year old dog to find out, if they in fact did get a different reading than at two or did they?
i am not aware of that......

[ 10-10-2005, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: sarnewfie ]

 

[Rhonda]

check your pm's

 

[piercjo]

Talked with the lady last night. I am getting the dog. She has never had a bath, she been shaved.The lady gave her a bowl full of food at all times so she can self regulate.I have never heard of that. Mickey is her name, and she weighs about 140. She tests for heartworms every other year. So it is an adventure.

 

[sarnewfie]

how awful sad for this dog, and i am sure all her others are taken care of the same, but hey, why not jump on the mixed breed bandwagon and go out and feed the millers.
this seems to be the latest craze!!!
arrggggg
good for you piercjo
give us pics of her when you can, and also a few extra hugs of love and comfort.

 

[Rhonda]

bless your heart for taking her in! Yes, please post a pic of her when you get the chance we would love to see her.

 

[ardeagold]

Awww...good for you!! She's going to be a lucky girl to finally have someone who really cares about her and loves her.

There will be some challenges, I'm sure, but hopefully they're minimal.

I can't wait to see pictures of her!

 

[Jenn]

Yeah glad you are getting the dog!

Btw Newf/PyrSaint mixes are the origin for the Leonberger...

 

[blstarke]

I am glad that you are taking her