Woodworkers?

I have a question for any of you who have used Danish oil. I bought some unfinished oak cabinets for around my washer and dryer, and was looking at staining options. The Watco Danish Oil caught my eye. It says it's a one step, and gives a hand rubbed finish without all the work.

Have any of you worked with this? Pros? Cons?

TIA
 

afreas

Member
A lot of things say one coat only. Most of the time it really isn't true. A lot depends on what you want to do. Are you going to stain them? Particularly for cabinets I would think it out a bit and plan. You will be looking at these a long time. One place to test is on the back side of the cabinets where it won't show. Note though that there are other folks much better than me on the list.
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IndysDad

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My only experience with oil is that you need to repeat application MANY times. The raw wood will soak it right up and it will look like you didnt do anything to it! It will take 4-8 coats for it to srart to look like a finish and then you will need to reapply it every 6 - 12 months.

I have some This End Up furnature (raw wood) and it has an oil finish. One nice part is that when you do reapply it, the cabinates will look pretty good.

One thing you might consider is Deft. It use to come in a spray can - easy to apply. Not sure if it still does. Either way, you can spray or brush on a clear finish. Two coats - your done.
 
This product says it's a blend of penetrating oil and varnish that stains, seals, and protects in one step. Won't crack, chip or peel. Someones website said that it's easily forgiving...if you scratch/knick/gouge it, you can reapply down the road, and it blends in well. I'm ok with doing more than one coat if the color turns out how I want it.

I did a test run with a sample color, same manufacturer, different product. The sides of the cabinet are the color I want, the front is lighter, and not as warm as I'd like it. So, I guess I need to play around a bit with it. Of course wood takes differently even if it's all from the same tree, but what can I say? I'm anal! LOL
 
Watco Danish oil is a nice finish. It's basically a mixture of oil, varnish, and minreal spirits, in about a 1/3 ratio. It will take several coats before you get the look you're after. Since it's an oil based finish, you'll need to apply a coat, and then let it "cure" for several days, to a week, depending on the humidity. I would also rub the finish with 0000 (4 ought) steel wool between coats. That will give you a nice, smooth finish.
 

Greg L

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The only one step way to do it is to go buy the cabinets already done. Anything else is going to take some effort on your part to make them look good. You really can't go from raw wood to laundry room masterpieces in one step - sorry.
 

ina/puusty

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Living in such an old house..the 'chances'..to oil, varnish, sand, wrench off panels, oil buffets, reattach sm. wood parts to a series of teak 'staved' platters from Sweden and Denmark, or just oil..yet-again..a huge tray from Pakistan..with carved segments in the design..meant for various condiments..I have grown to enjoy the chance to truely 'see' the wood. I grew up..helping my father..work upon the commercial fishing boat..he and my mother used..upon the Columbia River..between the states of Washington and Oregon. Every year..of moving around and about the Grey Ghost..meant combing must be solid, sides well caulked, paints and sealents..well done. A screaming storm..blowing in from the rivers mouth..as another gale blew in from the Pacific ocean..was not a time..to have had..shoddy woodwork. People die upon the rivers of the world..every year. I could sand, caulk, repaint..from the age of 8. Fast forward to now..and I love to spend time with wood..any portion..which I handle..speaks to me, with me. I honor the wood I have used in camp fires, and to find shelter from high winds..as I cuddle near a huge, fallen old growth tree..that upon its side..still 'stands' 5 ft tall. The crash of others..coming down, or 'topping'..at a distance..keeps me humble. When the sons were small, I carved and painted, and oiled designer chopping blocks and serving boards..from curly maple wood from our Cascade ranges. The boys were small, and I was house-bound..in that period of mothering. From 1966 through 72..I had stuff sold in several states..and it was a joy. I cannot 'speed through'..a piece of wood and its treatments..because I 'feel' what it went through..to arrive near me..it is a fellow traveler, so to speak. I touch it..and enjoy that time..oiling, looking, smelling the scents..as one works. The son who uncuffed himself from a most lucrative job about 2 months ago..has had the pleasure of spending a great number of hours now, deep in the fastness..of our huge old barn..and into the wee hours of the morning. He works..once again..with wood, creating things he used to love..and resting, dreaming..of what will be. It is..a healing..and a meditation. Richness comes not from accumulated cash/stock options/and the like...but in allowing ones self..to become open..to the moment, to leave the clocks, outside our space..and hear the sandpapers rasp..and let the work of the hands..take us..to that..which is next..to be. There are NO 12 steps..to dreaming. He works without music..I work with music..each, as they say..to his own. For all those..who have read this..and shake their heads..going.."What IS she meaning"..I can only direct you..to the nearest piece of wild land, park land, mountain fastness. If it means nothing, creates nothing..in the deeper drift of your thoughts..then you are a thing, amongst other things, an interchangable part of commercialized america. If you respond..as I do..then you are..a happening.
Of course..it is the 'happening' folks who just give the corporate types..the screaming fits n willys! So..are you now, going to go to the nearest store that sells kindling packs..and sit amongst the bundles..singing softly.."Ohm"..to yourself, as the other shoppers 'ease on by'? (We suggest you carry bail money..with your bad self..ok? ;) hugs, ina n HB
 
Trust me when I say I'm not looking for overnight masterpieces. A little over a year ago we bought a 1920's farmhouse and call it "Dump Acres". In it's day, you can see it was a beautiful home. Unfortunately, time, and the folks who lived here, weren't kind to it. We're finishing up the first room that we gutted...a room that I have no idea what it was used for back in the day, other than possibly a sitting room...mainfloor, no closet, 10x14. That is now a bath/laundry. No trim has been put up, since I'm not sure of "where" I'm going with the color. The original trim was shot in many places, and it's the dark mahogany color from that time period. I LOVE that color, but it won't fit in well with what I have going on in that room. For the most part, the trim in the rest of the house is in good shape considering the age. I will obsess about keeping the trim original where I can, because that was something that drew me to this house. We have 7 rooms that need the hardwood floors refinished, and 2 rooms that have the original terrazzo in it. I plan on bringing this house back to what it used to be...even if I'm 100 when it's done! So, a "one step" isn't my main concern...it's getting the results I'm after.


So, with that huge ramble, what are some of your favorite products to finish wood with?
 
Most of my projects all start with about 2 "sealer" coats of shellac. I use Zinsser Seal Coat as it is a "de-waxed" shellac and other finishes will stick to it. I usually apply 2 coats of shellac, thinned with denatured alcohol (2/3 alcohol, 1/3 shellac) and then wet sand with 400 grit sandpaper and mineral spirits until it gets smooth. On lighter woods like maple, or oak, the shellac will give the wood a nice "warm" tone, and on darker woods, it will tend to make the grain look "richer". After that, it depends on what the project will be used for. If it's going to get well used, I will use Polycrylic Eurethane. If it's just for "show", I like to use laquer. Below is a sofa table I recently made. The lighter wood is Pecan, and the darker wood is walnut. The first picture is the table with no finish on it yet. You can see how the shellac "warmed" up the lighter pecan, and made the walnut grain stand out.

If you're going to stain the wood, a coat of shellac will make the stain go on a lot more even, preventing the "blotching" that you some times get with stains. Just make sure you test on some scrap pieces before you jump into the final project.





[ 01-02-2007, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Mary Kay & Guy Germaine ]
 

sarnewfie

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Gee greg, that was mighty helpful of you.
Kelly, my hubby was a wood butcher, i will ask him for you when the bear awakens from his deep sleep.
he may or may not know, and if he doesnt his uncles do all kinds of refinishing and coating of cabinets.
in the meantime others seem to have some good advice to.
 

NinaA

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As usual, I agree with Ina. I work in a 217 year old museum home and the wood is what draws me to these houses. Respect. History. All right there in the worn door facings, thresholds, stairs. DH had to drag me through New Orleans because I kept touching the door ways, trim, etc. All wood (and hand made brick) tells a story. I keep a checkbook with me for bail, also.
 
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