What is the normal tail length

[JackandKelly]

Ours HATE Jack Mackerel. They really do. But they sure love their Salmon.

Ha, Lola loved it, but after the ear infections and allergy related anemia I never gave it to any other dogs. I swore her gorgeous coat was because of the mackeral, but no one has had any since January and all their coats are fantastic, so I don't suppose they are missing it. Lola does fine with Salmon oil so they get that.

 

[Ginny]

I'll have to dig up the research, but the reading I've done hasn't made nearly as big a deal about the cal. to phos. ratio as the amt. of calcium. That was a surprise to me. It may take me a while since the computer I had all the info. on crashed.

I agree genetics determines their adult size, but how fast they get there is hugely important.

 

[ardeagold]

I agree genetics determines their adult size, but how fast they get there is hugely important.

Absolutely agree. But a dog with "large" genes is going to be larger in each stage of growth, than a dog with "smaller" genes will...even within the same breed.

And not all pups from a litter will grow the same, even if they're fed exactly the same thing. They each have their own genes, and some may draw from their great-grandparents, while others draw from their sire, or dam, or cousin, twice removed.

Uniformity would be wonderful if it could be planned, but unfortunately, that magic formula hasn't been found yet.

 

[Ginny]

I don't disagree with any of that Donna. My point has been to watch pushing growth. Too often with this breed, and I don't put you in this camp, people brag about their dog's weight and wear it as a badge of honor. As long as the calcium, calories, and weight are being monitored in a growing pup, the chances of ending up with a healthy adult are increased.

 

[JackandKelly]

I don't disagree with any of that Donna. My point has been to watch pushing growth. Too often with this breed, and I don't put you in this camp, people brag about their dog's weight and wear it as a badge of honor. As long as the calcium, calories, and weight are being monitored in a growing pup, the chances of ending up with a healthy adult are increased.

This is why I worry about keeping Ty thin and comparing his weight. I often see people bragging (not so much on NN, but other places) that their 6 month old pup is 100 pounds. I just cringe

 

[ardeagold]

I don't disagree with any of that Donna. My point has been to watch pushing growth. Too often with this breed, and I don't put you in this camp, people brag about their dog's weight and wear it as a badge of honor. As long as the calcium, calories, and weight are being monitored in a growing pup, the chances of ending up with a healthy adult are increased.

I agree again! When we bred Goldens, over the years we kept "sizing down" the pups, by feeding them better food for slower growth. They also have fast growth-related joint problems, and slower is always better.

Over a decade or two, we went from having litters with pano, to little pano, to no pano at all. Plus they went from 16 lbs at 8 weeks, to 13 lbs at 8 weeks, to around 10-11 lbs at 8 weeks, which we much preferred. All was diet related.

As more quality food and breed-appropriate diet information became available, we noticed a huge change in the puppy growth stages. Plus we noticed not only a lack of pano, but better coats, ears and overall health.

So diet does matter....a great deal!

And no, I don't want a huge Newf. Never did. I want a "normal" standard Newf. I just think Frankie is going to be big, but we shall see. You never know. He's really right "in there" in comparison to Cole's growth at the same ages, but he does come from larger lines, and as I said, his feet are HUGE, and back on topic, his tail was LONG! I don't think he'll be a lot bigger than Cole, but I do suspect he'll be a bit larger.

I, too, cringe when I hear people talking about wanting a "big Newf". Big to them is WAY too big for me.

 

[hdnewfies]

ok so tucker is 5 months old and weighs 75 lbs. He is not on the heavy side at all, I can feel his ribs. His big sister Rubee is 145 and 32in at the shoulder. Picture on the left shows how tall she is. Tuckers tail is just really long and skinny. LOL it will be fun watching him grow up into a handsome big boy.

 

[R Taft]

I don't disagree with any of that Donna. My point has been to watch pushing growth. Too often with this breed, and I don't put you in this camp, people brag about their dog's weight and wear it as a badge of honor. As long as the calcium, calories, and weight are being monitored in a growing pup, the chances of ending up with a healthy adult are increased.

Yes I agree, I have always been worried about Katy's growth rate. We always thought that a RAW diet would mean slower growth. And Katy is very lean. But I have now looked at some pics of her grand parents and one was a HUGE boy, so maybe it is her genes. Mind you that said, Katy has never had Pano or lameness during her first fifteen months of life. I just cross fingers and paws she will keep sound.
I just would love Annabelle size newfs, she is just at the lower end of the female size. Katy's dam was too, but I must admit i did not look at pics of the Grand sire, just his age impressed me 14

 

[dblaine]

My girl Meg had a tail that was very long as a puppy but is exactly to her hock now. She is a tall girl, she grew into the tail.