Raw feeding questions

lotus

New member
I know some in the group feed raw and love it, but has there been anyone who has done raw feeding only to decide it wasn't for them.?Has ther been a dog that didn't like their food raw?
Is it possible to do a mix of both raw and kibble?
How is the meat handled...especially when you have a house full of small of small kids?
How often do you buy it...divide it up or prepare it everyday. Can you tell if you get a bad batch?
How do you know how much to feed?
If you do raw meat can you toss in fish also?
thinking of starting with my small dogs to see how easy or difficult or time consuming it is. The handling has me a bit nervous.
 

BlackLightning

New member
Feeding raw can be intimidating. Having someone you can turn to that you trust and can bounce questions off of is really really helpful.

There are a ton of different 'ways' to feed raw and you will get a lot of differing advice on the subject. It doesn't mean that one way is right and another is wrong. Raw feeders get into a method and routine that works for them - what works for me might very well not work for you and vice versa, so don't feel like it's "their way or the highway" when it comes to raw feeding.

So, this is how I do it.

The first thing I did was buy a 21 cubic foot freezer. This allows me to buy in bulk and take advantage of sales/bulk pricing. Also, because I feed two Newfs, I need the freezer!! My freezer full lasts me about 4 weeks. I would absolutely LOVE to get a second one. It's something I will eventually do.

I do not feed pre-packaged raw (many do and think it's fantastic!) - I try and keep my costs down by doing a ton of the work myself. I source the meat, organs, bones from meat packagers and I just found a new fish supplier!! YAY! When you find a new supplier it's like winning the lottery! :) I buy in bulk, bring it all home, weigh it, portion it, colour code it and into the freezer it goes. I feed a variety of meats - pork, beef, chicken, fish, game meats like moose or venison if I can get my hands on it, rabbit, turkey, tripe, etc. I don't grind anything (some raw feeders do a lot of grinding) - I only let them have bones that are completely digestible (no weight bearing bones). I also do not feed any veggies, just 80% meat, 10% bone, 10% organs - this differs from others. They do get kelp daily though.

It is a lot of work to feed this way. I don't have a separate area in the house where I can portion the meat (I WISH!!) - so, when it is meat portioning day, I clear off the entire counter, cover it in garbage bags and away I go with my cutting boards, scale, coloured clips and rubbermaid bins. It takes hours when I have brought in a big order.

The alternative to this approach is pre-packaged, or a mix between what I do and pre-packaged. There is nothing wrong with choosing this method either! It can be more costly, but it is way less work! For me, my big factor (as is my mentors) is that I want to know exactly what my dogs are eating. I want to know the exact portions of fat, meat, by-products, etc and I have complete control. There are some great raw products on the market and I know a number of people on here can recommend some.

I don't find the meat handling to be a big deal. In fact, I somewhat enjoy it and find it very rewarding to feed this way. It's actually pretty neat to hold a lamb pluck in your hands and prepare it for your fur babies. I have never had an issue with bad meat or had a sickness from the meat handling. I use regular precautions - lots of kitchen spray after portioning, disposal outside in the garbage of all my raw bags, etc and voila! the kitchen is back to normal.

My dogs absolutely LOVE to eat their raw. They do sometime regurgitate, but I have grown used to it. It is not all the time, but occasionally they will do it. I feed them outside or in the garage - they do not end up covered in raw juices - they usually have their meal gone in under a few minutes! Not a lot of time to make a mess.

The amount to feed was trial and error for me. I was told to start at 2% of their ideal weight per day. This was way too much for my guys. However, my mentors Newfs eat almost 4% per day! Totally depends on the dog and their activity levels. Mine got fat. I cut them back and now I have a very good idea of what works for them.

I do admit, there are days when I am really really not in the mood. I have to devote a lot of time to feeding like this - sometimes I just want to run out and pick up a bag of kibble! But, the dogs are doing wonderful on their raw - I have not had one issue - their skin, coat, teeth, overall health is fantastic - they have great energy and are not starving all the time (biggest issue I had with kibble is that neither of them were ever satisfied). In the end, I keep doing it, even though there are days when I envy a kibble feeder!!

Here are some pics!
This is my freezer - I colour code my portions because Boum needs more than Ayasha


and here is an order I picked up! Ready for portioning!!


The chickens were on sale for $1.49/lb so I requested cases of whole chickens - the meat packagers thought I was crazy to be feeding them to dogs!
 
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Keira25

Member
I tried raw for awhile, and while it was time-consuming, I didn't mind it. My dog thought she died and went to heaven. So what happened? Towards the end of the summer, she got an awful puking, diarrhea thing going on. It was horrendous. Most vets HATE raw, mine included. So of course they blamed raw for her problems. Everyone from the women behind the counter, to the vet techs to the vet talked about how it's unhealthy, they can get diseases, we can get diseases etc. I can ignore that, but it's tough when your dog is throwing up and having diarrhea and you don't know why to staunchly defend your raw diet. I ignored the vet for awhile, but every time I tried to put her back on raw it was back to throwing up and diarrhea. I switched to Precise Holistic grain free. Since she was happy with that, I have continued it. You can't feed raw and kibble at the same meal, too tough on digestion, but you can do a meal of kibble and a meal of raw. Find a vet that is on board with your raw diet, or I think it can get too complicated. There are people who are hard-core raw feeders and won't like a word of what I've written. Just being honest with my personal experience.
 

lotus

New member
I tried raw for awhile, and while it was time-consuming, I didn't mind it. My dog thought she died and went to heaven. So what happened? Towards the end of the summer, she got an awful puking, diarrhea thing going on. It was horrendous. Most vets HATE raw, mine included. So of course they blamed raw for her problems. Everyone from the women behind the counter, to the vet techs to the vet talked about how it's unhealthy, they can get diseases, we can get diseases etc. I can ignore that, but it's tough when your dog is throwing up and having diarrhea and you don't know why to staunchly defend your raw diet. I ignored the vet for awhile, but every time I tried to put her back on raw it was back to throwing up and diarrhea. I switched to Precise Holistic grain free. Since she was happy with that, I have continued it. You can't feed raw and kibble at the same meal, too tough on digestion, but you can do a meal of kibble and a meal of raw. Find a vet that is on board with your raw diet, or I think it can get too complicated. There are people who are hard-core raw feeders and won't like a word of what I've written. Just being honest with my personal experience.
Honest personal exoerience is exactly what i want to hear. Thanks
 

R Taft

Active member
"like" Blacklightening's post

I feed mostly RAW..........I say mostly, becuase when we travel we go straight to Balckhawk (australian holistic brand) which is lamb/rice based with no artificial coloring and preservatives. And we use canned fish on our travels. But we still might buy RAW from any butcher for either morning or evening meal.

I have owned newfies since the 1980's..Fed mostly RAW, home cooked and a little dry. I have NEVER had sloppy stools, for longer then a day.......I honestly do not believe you can blame RAW.

I also do all my own prepping and I am very careful where I buy from. I hate stock that is not pasture fed. Not quite the organic Nazi, but it has to not be from feedlots.

We also kill our own once a year, that brings down the cost and we have an awesom butcher who loves our dogs.......

It is hard work, but it is better for my dogs and for us cheaper
 
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