Grand mal seizures

Khiori

New member
Khiori had her first grand mal cluster seizure this morning at 4am. She had 11 grand mals between 4:08am and 4:54am with a few petite mals following. Our vet is out of town til the 2nd.

Anyway, just looking for info or support. This really hurts our family to see Khiori in this condition. She's now drugged up on diazepam to control any residual seizures left from this morning.
 

Theresa

Inactive Member
Oh poor baby
That must be so heartbreaking to watch. I don't have any info to offer but just know that I will keep Khiori in my prayers tonight. Is this something new or had she had them before?
 

Lynne

New member
Oh, Rachel, how dreadful! The only thing I can suggest is to try to figure out if there is anything that triggered the seizures. Can you think of anything different Khiori ate or experienced? And keep a watch, if it ever happens again. Sometimes knowing the trigger can help you avoid recurrences.
Good luck, and give her a hug for me.
Lynne
 

Khiori

New member
Ty, both. Yes, I know what her trigger is. It's any kind of chemicals. Being house cleaning supplies, insect repellents, pesticides, fertilizer, and the newly added one on our list: perfume.

Before she would have drop attacks within 12 hours of being exposed. Never a true seizure like this.

Has anyone here ever had experience with seizures? (dogs or humans) I really wish our vet was in town
Last night I was terrified to go to sleep in case Khiori had another seizure. So was husband. So we kinda of slept in shifts.
 

Jeannie

Super Moderator
Khiori
Annie Milliron, who is a member of this list has a 2 yr old Newfie (a rescue) that has serious seizures. Hopefully you can get in contact with her. I am sure she can answer ANY questions you have concerning treatment. I will e-mail her now and tell you to be sure to check this list. (I would post her address, but that may not be too safe) My prayers are with you
Jeannie
 

Khiori

New member
Yes, I remember Annie (and her birdwatching and that terrible auto crash) I also sent a detailed version of this to newf-l. I think everyone is busy today. I've only gotten a hand full of replies from those who know me 'offlist'. I'm hoping tomorrow to see more info from those who have seizure prone dogs.
 

Eileen Reynolds

Inactive Member
Khiori
I have a 9 month old Newf called Luke, he started having Grand Mal seizures about 2 months ago and yes it's very distressing to deal with. Like you we lose a lot of sleep when it happens. Our vet has started him on a course of potassium bromide and he went exactly 18 days between fits on two occasions (which is pretty good but still too often. Since it's a few months since you first had to deal with this problem I wonder whether you could give us any advice. So far we havn't noticed anything particular that triggers a seizure but I did notice that about 24 hours before his seizure he became really smelly, then in the evening he didn't want to settle down to watch t.v. with us as he always does last thing at night.

Any information you can pass on would be gratefully received.
 

GAD

Administrator
Staff member
Khiori is DEFINATELY the person you want to talk to. She knows more about K9 epi than most vets! Well, maybe some vets - anyway she knows a lot.

GAD
 

Theresa

Inactive Member
Before Boomer had his seizure last month, he would get really restless too. It turns out that his thyroid level was really low and the thyroid function test confirmed him being hypothyroid. Just a thought..maybe you would like to discuss the possibility of having your newfs thyroid level checked. Since being on his medication, he hasn't had a seizure. We've also noticed his coat not having that certain smell. He also doesn't pace as much.
 

Annie Milliron

Alpha Goddess
Eileen,

First of all, I know what you are going through. Epilepsy is a terrible thing to cope with... However, the most important thing to remember is that most dogs can lead a normal life, once they get on the proper dosage.

Our Sadie was an extreme case. She clustered, and to make matters worse, reacted adversely to the anti seizure drugs. She suffered from "ATAXIA" which is a side effect to the pheno-barb and kbr. As I said before, Sadie was a very unusual case.

You are already on the right track. You are noticing things... and that's important. One thing that is very helpful is to keep a log of the seizures. Record as much information as you can. This will be helpful to your vet. You need to record things like:

time of seizure
length of seizure
how long before your dog is back to "normal"
did the dog urinate or deficate during the seizure...

also include anything else, like, had you changed foods, eating times... had you had company, was there an unusual amount of stress in your house that day....

Include anything out of the norm. It's a cumbersome task, but, with time... you may be lucky to see a pattern develop.

ALSO... have your vet test your dog's Thyroid... that may sound really odd, but... in alot of cases, dogs with thyroid problems often have seizures that are mistken for epilepsy. It's important to have the Thyroid test send to the University of Michigan... they are the most accurate... Thyroid tests are tricky and it's easy to get either a "false posititive" or "false negative".

And finally... there are many wonderful resources on the web, including a mailing list for Canine Epilepsy. I don't have the URL for that, but, if you do a search on the Web, she should find it. If not, let me know, and I'll dig through my records.

Hang tight... Stay calm. Remember to have a pillow handy, to put under the dogs head while seizing. It's wise to keep other pets away as well... sometimes other dogs instinctually want to attack a seizing dog.

Good luck, and my prayers are with you....


Annie

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