Water rescue seminar

CathyC.

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Well, day one down and we are back at our campsite resting. Obi is one tired dog!

The morning portion of come, take it and hold it were the building blocks needed for water rescue tasks.

In the afternoon we had the chance to put these skills to use. Despite really disgusting water with goose feces we all ventured in, many with wet suits, to do the handler and dog swim. This is similar to healing on land but of course as the water drops off you end up swimming. You don't want the dog to forge ahead or cut you off or try to climb on you. Obi did fairly well especially with treats to lead the nose forward. I was instructed to gently lift his back end a bit so he could swim better. After swimming out a bit we turn around then the handler (me!) holds onto the dog's haunches and everyone on shore calls the dog excitedly to come. The dog pulls the swimmer into shallow water and instinctively, when the dog can touch bottom he turns around to look at the rescued swimmer/handler and of course receive a delicious treat. The handlers get pretty scratched up from the swim out and I was glad to treat my little scratches with tea tree and lavender oils to ward off infection. Still, it was great fun to be pulled ashore by a dog!

The next task was to send the dog out (go out!) to a stranger in trouble in the water. The stranger would treat the dog then lead the dog to swim around the person. I guess this makes it easier in a real rescue for a person to grab the rope/flotation device the dog would take out. Once the dog has come around the handler on shore calls the dog to come and everyone cheers. I guess this could build up to the dog towing a person or boat back to shore.

The third task was a lot of fun and easy for obi. It was fetching a bumper tossed into the water and bringing it back. The only thing new for obi was the actual bumper and water component and he took that in stride going out again and again. It is required that the dog learn to give the item to your hand and not just drop it on the ground. The work I've already done with obi on picking things up for me really paid off here. I use the command thank you instead of give but the result is the same.

After that we washed the dogs and returned for dry land work on a boat. The boat had a platform on the back. We had our dogs heal then gave the command table to get them up on the platform with us. Then we instructed the dogs to come around us again so we were facing the back of the boat and sit. We sat, too and gave the dog praise. They waited a bit. Then the dog was instructed to wait while we stepped a few paces away and gave the jump or come command to encourage the dog to jump off the boat onto the ground. Obi did pretty well on his second attempt. Since I prefer obi on my right side I had to do everything backwards but this doesn't matter unless you want to do obedience trials or something. Tomorrow we will try this in the water.

The last exercise was the go out command again but this time we were on land and the person being rescued was sitting in the boat. Again, this could be combined with taking out a tow rope or paddle or towing the boat back to shore.

Tips for anyone interested: use really high value treats. Use a choke chain collar because it allows air to circulate and reduces the chance of hot spots. Save any broken leashes and use the clip end and a few inches of leash, knotted at the end, to use as a tab leash. This gives you something to control the dog with in the water if necessary without the dog tripping on a long leash and thinking he is getting a correction. Highly recommend using water shoes and a wet suit.

 

CathyC.

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Today we tried an underwater take it. We put a diving toy in obi's kiddie pool and gave the command. With patience he did get it even when the toy zoomed across the pool (it is designed to travel underwater rather than sink straight down.). I can't remember how deep the water has to be. I think up to the dog's chest but the kiddie pool is a good start. So, you see, there are many elements you can start working on now.

We are beginning to work on differentiating things, too. Take the leash. Take the bumper. Etc. this is also a good thing to practice on dry land before you go.

We also worked on hold it today. This means hold it firmly until I tell you to give or let it go. This is harder. I have to gently apply pressure under his chin and on his snout so he doesn't let go and I repeat the direction hold it! Hold it! Then release and reward. Ultimately, they should hold the item even when you tug it.

We didn't manage to work on go out today. I need another adult to help with that but we did do find its in a larger and new area. This is basically hide and seek so the kids like to help with that. Next time I will have to get the dinghy out for them to hide under like at the course.
 

Newfobsessed

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Your great descriptions make me feel like I am there. THANK YOU!!! I want to find one near us and get into training.
 

Tracy

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Some one has been doing their homework. Glad to see your family is helping with the training. It is quite a bit of work to do all of this training but it will be worth it.
Tracy
 

CathyC.

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Some one has been doing their homework. Glad to see your family is helping with the training. It is quite a bit of work to do all of this training but it will be worth it.
Tracy
Hi Tracy!
Yes, we've been doing take it, hold it, find it and under water take its every day. Today I tried a new strategy for hold it though. Instead of being stationary and trying to hold his muzzle which he fights I gave the command take it then told him to hold it as I walked around with him following me then gave the release command I use (thank you). He held it! If he did drop the item he always picked it up again and returned it to my hand. Same with the take its.

Today we added go out and obi went out, went around and returned to sit at my side. We were on dry land. He did so well! Then we did some find its with the person hiding under the dinghy and those were no problem. Even when my little daughter was completely hidden by the dinghy Obi went right to her.

I have also been more diligent with teaching the name of a specific thing to take but I'm starting with leash instead of life jacket or cushion or bumper or sinker. I figure he can get his own leash eventually when it is time to go for a walk! Today we upped the ante by semi hiding the leash or putting it in a harder to access place (behind a plant pot or on a bench pushed up to the picnic table or under the table). I think obi loves these little puzzles.

I'm keen to get back to a beach to try the swim with handler again. We still can't get obi into our pool.
 

Tracy

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Cathy,
The possibilities with the take it hold it command will be great with what you want to do with Obi.
Keys, laundry, etc. it all started with going to a class and having fun with your family and Obi. If no person has told you this breed will change your life. That being said he will have some fallback moments but you will see him through I'm sure.
Tracy
 

CathyC.

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A take it with a paddle. Not what we normally use but it works!

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Gratuitous cute dog shot.
 

Cutiemus Maximus

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Your great descriptions make me feel like I am there. THANK YOU!!! I want to find one near us and get into training.
Our regional club, Colonial Newf Club, put on a water workshop two weekends ago--you just missed it! You should consider joining, best decision I ever made. You'll be able to network with others who enjoy water work (like Admiral and me!). CNC still has free swim weekends setup all summer, check the website for that info.

The best learning experience for a newbie like me was stewarding at last year's water tests. It's great to see the pups in action, great to learn exactly how the tests are conducted, and it's a great way to make Newfie friends.
 

CathyC.

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Had obi at another beach this weekend. He is doing very well with take it and go out so we put the two together to have him carry his leash out to the victim in the water. It felt like such a success when he completed the task though it took a few tries before he figured it out. I had to walk him out the first time and the second time we made the distance quite short but after that he got it!

Swim with handler needs a lot more work and long pants. I tried the PVC pipe and leash trick but not with much success. I tried going along the shoreline too but I'd rather build up obis confidence than push him so we didn't work too much on this. We will try again and hopefully we will have calmer weather. The water was a bit choppy. But, I think obi is better about keeping an even keel now.

Although we had a boat we didn't get obi out on it because i was afraid to puncture the rubber. I'm interested to see how he'd take to being afloat.

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CathyC.

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You feed the leash through a length of pipe and use it to keep the dog at a nice distance from you when you swim out.
 

Senea

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That's a good idea, Taver has mastered swim on owner :(. He's reasonable with other people but he seems to think that I need him if I'm more then 2 feet from the steps. Think I'll run to the store this afternoon.

I'm also going to take our first trip to the beach this weekend if the weather holds. I'm guessing everything will be different there. Probably have to start from the beginning.
 
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AngusMcDubhsMom

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You feed the leash through a length of pipe and use it to keep the dog at a nice distance from you when you swim out.
That's brilliant! I'm going to get some PVC also. My Angus failed his first water test because of "swim with handler." He climbed on my back and tried to grab the neck of my lifejacket.
 
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