Trainers for prong collars in the GTA?

OodlesOfNoodles

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Does anyone know of a good trainer in or around the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) who could train us on how to properly use a prong collar? The trainers we've used up until now are anti-prong and I'd like to be able to talk to someone knowledgeable in them as we're considering one.
 

Whybu1

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Prong is used as an instant correction. Give a tug and release right away. Think of it as poking your dog to get its attention. Never allow it to stay tight.
 

AngusMcDubhsMom

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They look terrible, but honestly, I've tried one on my own arm and they do not hurt. Friends call it "power steering" for big dogs. Good luck.
 

DAWNMERIE

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It's a training tool, also referred to as power steering. I used them when they were younger and not for very long, mind you Miss Myra could use a refresher course! The day she pulled both herself & Vince in front of a car, it became crystal clear. Don't be afraid to use what works, it's for the safety of you and your dog.
 

charlieinnj

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Last week, I had a trainer come to my house because my female Newf insists on pulling on the leash 100% of the time. He ended up fitting her with a prong collar and only uses the ones made by Sprenger. They can be used 2 ways, depending on how you attach the leash. If you attached the leash to both D-rings, the collar will not constrict at all. But it still allows you to give a quick 'correction'.
 

jane

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I started using a prong 6 years ago when Merlin was 1. It was the first time I ever had a newf who would not listen and lunged instead. The first time he wore it was the last time he pulled. He lunged and actually corrected himself by doing so. He let out a little yelp and never lunged again. On the other hand, my Shannon still needs one at 8 because she wants to get to everyone she sees for her fair share of lovings. She is also a critter chaser and doesn't listen when something goes running by...They should only be worn when walking the dog...:)
 

OodlesOfNoodles

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I started using a prong 6 years ago when Merlin was 1. It was the first time I ever had a newf who would not listen and lunged instead. The first time he wore it was the last time he pulled. He lunged and actually corrected himself by doing so. He let out a little yelp and never lunged again. On the other hand, my Shannon still needs one at 8 because she wants to get to everyone she sees for her fair share of lovings. She is also a critter chaser and doesn't listen when something goes running by...They should only be worn when walking the dog...:)
Haha yes, it would definitely only be used on walks. Our guy is a year and a half; he's pretty good with not pulling on the leash (that is, he pulls but as soon as we stop walking as a result he runs back to us and gets into heel position), but is terrible for lunging. He has started acting out towards other dogs and sometimes people to, by lunging and barking. If we can distract him ahead of time and turn his attention away, he's fine, but once he's started, we've lost him and it takes all of my strength to pull him away. We live downtown (and are moving into an apartment building very soon), so these interactions aren't something that can just be avoided unfortunately; we need control.
 

ElvisTheNewf

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We love our prong collar!! Elvis only needs his when we go out in public places and he knows the minute we pull it out that he's going somewhere fun. I can't recommend these enough - but do get someone to show you how to use it properly. We always use our WITH a second chain collar just in case the prongs come loose.
 

Jentarin

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I had a newf-sized labrador growing up who actually pulled one of my sisters up a rock wall chasing after a squirrel (hand was caught in the leash). 3 days with a prong collar and it was never a problem again. Was still a very happy and friendly boy that I look forward to meeting at the bridge.
 

R Taft

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Haha yes, it would definitely only be used on walks. Our guy is a year and a half; he's pretty good with not pulling on the leash (that is, he pulls but as soon as we stop walking as a result he runs back to us and gets into heel position), but is terrible for lunging. He has started acting out towards other dogs and sometimes people to, by lunging and barking. If we can distract him ahead of time and turn his attention away, he's fine, but once he's started, we've lost him and it takes all of my strength to pull him away. We live downtown (and are moving into an apartment building very soon), so these interactions aren't something that can just be avoided unfortunately; we need control.
If your dog has any lead agession, which this sounds like, a prong collar can make this worse....i would look into BAT training (google it) for the lead aggression. lead agression lunging is not a pulling issue.it is a different type if issue and need to be helped in a different way....tight lead and prong can escalate this (lead agression). hence you may need some professional help. I deal with many clients that have dogs with lead aggression. And two of my rescues had issues with it.harry is a perfect example of lead aggression made worse by using a prong collar ( by his previous owner and a trainer who used the Alpha roll)..we now have him on a flat collar and we do BAT training and clicker training.he now goes to our kennel club and has become very social and no further lunging.
 

OodlesOfNoodles

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If your dog has any lead agession, which this sounds like, a prong collar can make this worse....i would look into BAT training (google it) for the lead aggression. lead agression lunging is not a pulling issue.it is a different type if issue and need to be helped in a different way....tight lead and prong can escalate this (lead agression). hence you may need some professional help. I deal with many clients that have dogs with lead aggression. And two of my rescues had issues with it.harry is a perfect example of lead aggression made worse by using a prong collar ( by his previous owner and a trainer who used the Alpha roll)..we now have him on a flat collar and we do BAT training and clicker training.he now goes to our kennel club and has become very social and no further lunging.
We are working with someone, but it's not leash aggression we don't think - the reactions happen off leash as well. But curbing the on-leash antics is clutch for us at the moment. It may turn out that a prong isn't the best option for him at this time, but that's why we're wanting to work with a trainer knowledgable in their use, so as to get feedback on its appropriateness.

Edited to add - I looked up the BAT training and that's a lot of what we're doing right now as well.
 
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fall3n-ang3l

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Bernie has been a little sod with pulling,about 5wks back,I was meeting my sil on the field with her dog,I thought I will take some extra special treats and try this way,on the way to the field I wrapped the lead around my hand and was starting to go on the field,wasn't taking much notice as I was getting the extra training treats out and he lunged forward and he was off,I had to be very quick to let go,how he didn't break my finger I will never know,infact he might have becouse it still hurts now and even if I knock it,it will bruise up instantly! Anyway I've been waiting for the dogmatic head collar to come in to stock becouse they had sold out of his size,it came in to stock and I finally got one,it's made such a huge difference in him,I think once were both used to,it and me know what iam actually doing,for me,I think it's going to be a life saver!
 

OodlesOfNoodles

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Have you tried a gentle leader?
We use the gentle leader harness, and had started getting him used to the Halti head harness, but I don't feel like i have enough control over him with the head harness (mental block on my end)...the one we have is also a bit too big right now I think (had to get the biggest to be able to do it up around his neck, but it then is a bit too loose around his face. However, he's just had a surgery on his face which won't allow him to wear a face device for the next little while. I have reached out to a trainer someone suggested and will be meeting with them when the little guy's more healed up. Thanks everyone!
 

NinaA

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I loved the effect the prong had on Moonlight. She just needed a "poke" to get her to pay attention. I don't use it much at all any more. She's so good on a leash that I don't even need the leash usually. She somehow taught herself to follow my index finger on her ear!
 
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