Newfie Puppy Advice - crate training

cjr3bryant

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Hi everyone! Was looking for some advice on my Newfie who we picked up on Saturday and is around 11 weeks old. My boyfriend raised our Bernese from a puppy (he passed on Christmas Day) so he thought he knew it all but, of course, Jackson is acting completely different.

He has started HATING his crate. I took the week off from work to stay with him so he has only been using the crate at night in our bedroom. We do have the crate, with the door open, downstairs during the day but he has no interest in it. He has peed in the crate twice during the day. Literally walked in, peed, and then walked out. I blame myself for those two times. I didn't take him outside quick enough.

The first couple of nights, in the crate, he was a little whiney but settled fairly quickly. Last night was different. He cried, barked and whined. After about 15 minutes, we went over to check on him and discovered he had peed. We cleaned up, took him outside and then brought him back to the crate. He cried and barked and tried to scratch his way out for probably a half hour before settling down. He then woke up at 4am so we took him outside to pee and brought him back to the crate. Once again, complete freak out. Since my boyfriend had an early morning meeting, I brought him downstairs to which we played for a bit and then he passed out on his dog bed. He seems to prefer moving between sleeping on his dog bed and right next (sometimes in) his water bowl.

I've tried to put him in the crate during the day once he falls asleep, but he may sleep in it for five minutes and then walk out and move to his bed. I've also tried using treats and toys to lure him in, which works, but he never wants to stay in the crate.

Any advice on how we can make him more comfortable in the crate? We're also nervous to let him cry it out, in case he's actually telling us he has to go potty. I'm back to work next week so he'll have times where he will have to be in the crate during the day (we plan on taking turns working from home).

One more thing - is it normal that he likes to sleep with his head in the water bowl? Our only issue is that he gets so wet which turns into a stinky puppy.

Sorry this is so long and thanks so much in advance for any replies!
 

Jeannie

Super Moderator
First take his water away about 3-4 hours before bedtime. Give him plenty of outside time to potty but not hard play to make him really thirsty.

Many dogs get hot in crates. A fan blowing on him will not only cool him but the hum of the motor tends to comfort them.

Anytime I house train a puppy they go outside to potty every 2 hour around the clock. (Don't count on the dog alerting you to having to to potty. 11 weeks is way to young to depend on the puppy telling you.) Yes that means sleeping on the couch and setting the alarm. After about a week you can stretch the time out a bit. I tell my customers if their dog potties in the house it is THEIR fault not the dog's. Once you let the dog start having accidents in the house it will become a hard habit to break. It may seem like a lot to take out so often but in the long run you will be glad. Also when you go out to potty there is NO play until after potty. Always a big reward for pottying out side.

Yes sleeping in the water bowl is normal.
 

cjr3bryant

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Thanks! We'll definitely set the alarm during the night. We had the fan on last night, but we'll try moving it closer to him.
 

cjr3bryant

New member
We have the kitchen gated off (with baby locks on the lower cabinets) but we are worried that he'll be upset sleeping downstairs by himself and that he'll somehow find mischief despite our puppy proofing. We could close our bedroom door and let him be free but, again, we'd be worried we would sleep through puppy shenanigans. ��
 

Puppypeoplenj

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My dog hates the crate, too. :( But, with time he has gotten to tolerate it for a (very) little while at a time. Some dogs just don't grow to like the crate whatever you do. This isn't to say you shouldn't try, just don't feel like it's your fault if everything you tried seemed not to work.

However... I would have been very nervous depending on a gate to keep my puppy safe while I was sleeping or out of the house. They just grow so fast, and it only takes one time for them to realize that they can knock the gate over if they hit it hard enough, and then you're screwed, especially if you're not there to put them back when they escape. Like I said before, my dog hates the crate, but it was the safest place for him (especially while potty training) so in the crate he stayed, whether he liked it or not. Try feeding in the crate and giving awesome, special, LONG LASTING treats in the crate (like a kong or himalayan dog chew), so he associates it with fun. Keep trying, most people really are able to get their dogs to love the crate. Now that Orca is older, he stays in our bedroom instead of the crate. Is there a room with a solid door that you could use? (Be careful with button locks, though, Orca has locked himself in the bathroom more than once due to those, and we finally had to break the door open one day to get him out.)
 

Jeannie

Super Moderator
IMO No matter how much a dog hates a crate they all need to be trained to be in one. You never know when an emergency will require them to be in one.
 

Angela

Super Moderator
I always crate train now regardless of what the puppy thinks about it!! Once upon a time I thought crates were cruel. Mine have got to think of a crate as their house, crates are useful when you can't supervise the puppy and it can't get into mischief in a crate.
Mine also travel in crates in the van.
 

R Taft

Active member
Get the Susan Garrett crate training games......Google Susan Garrett and crate training....my dogs do demos of crate games and she taught me how. they love it and to them it is all a game. Annabelle hated the crate, we got her at 14 months and she had been crated 24/7.......she now like to lie in one when it is open and uses it as her cave. I only crate my puppies and for injuries, but I do teach my dogs to like crates, so that when we do need them they cope.....it is FUN for them and also a good place to be
 
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