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Ginny

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I've a call into the Repro vet... but I really don't see a point in continuing to subject her to sticks if I have no intention of supplementing with progesterone. If she loses this litter, then it wasn't meant to be. I'm not one who will do any and everything to have a litter. Heck, we've enough problems in this breed as it is.

Edited to add: Once bred, I try to avoid taking my girls to any areas where germs may be lurking. I don't find a vet's office to be a place I want to frequent.
 
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Jeannie

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If she loses this litter, then it wasn't meant to be. I'm not one who will do any and everything to have a litter.
That is what I admire about you and your breeding program. You put your dogs first and you strive to better the breed. Hats off to you. I pray Jill has a great litter of puppies at the end of the month. Please keep us posted!!
 

YorkvilleNewfie

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I've a call into the Repro vet... but I really don't see a point in continuing to subject her to sticks if I have no intention of supplementing with progesterone. If she loses this litter, then it wasn't meant to be. I'm not one who will do any and everything to have a litter. Heck, we've enough problems in this breed as it is.
Where's the like button? Now that that's been said, I really want these pups to make it!!! If they're even half as pretty as Jill...ooh, I can't wait!
 

Ivoryudx

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Not trying to convince you different than you believe. Its your choice.

Losing a litter can be a number of things. You didn't test last breeding, so you don't know it was due to a drop in progesterone. You didn't test her last cycle to know if she sustained throughout to carry. Which could have helped you decide if you wanted to try again this time. Part of knowing what is happening can help with the health of your girl and your future breeding plans. Its not about going over the top to get a litter, its about monitoring for the well being of what you are breeding.

Good Luck!
 

Ginny

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Not trying to convince you different than you believe. Its your choice.

Losing a litter can be a number of things. You didn't test last breeding, so you don't know it was due to a drop in progesterone. You didn't test her last cycle to know if she sustained throughout to carry. Which could have helped you decide if you wanted to try again this time. Part of knowing what is happening can help with the health of your girl and your future breeding plans. Its not about going over the top to get a litter, its about monitoring for the well being of what you are breeding.

Good Luck!
Believe me, Jill's well being is at the top of my list, but thank you for your concern. You have no knowledge of any testing done with respect to her last litter. My vet and I do...
 
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Ivoryudx

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I have no doubt that Jill's well being is top of your list.

You are correct, I know nothing of your litters/breedings, I never claimed I did. I only know what you posted about progesterone in this thread and that is what I was commenting on. That you have not tested progesterone beyond the actual breeding. (posted in this thread early on) Nothing else.
 

Ginny

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Losing a litter can be a number of things. You didn't test last breeding, so you don't know it was due to a drop in progesterone. You didn't test her last cycle to know if she sustained throughout to carry. Which could have helped you decide if you wanted to try again this time. Part of knowing what is happening can help with the health of your girl and your future breeding plans. Its not about going over the top to get a litter, its about monitoring for the well being of what you are breeding.
You are correct, I know nothing of your litters/breedings, I never claimed I did.
Unless I've lost my ability to read, you certainly did.

Also, thanks for informing me that there can be a number of things that can cause a litter to be lost - I had no idea!
 

Ginny

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Lou Ann, I do appreciate your thoughts and I know you offering well intentioned suggestions. I just truly don't see a good reason to expose Jill to the vet office germs or the sticks just to find out 'where she is' if I have no thoughts of boosting a low progesterone. I don't know a benefit from finding out exactly when a dog resorbed. Now if progesterone levels yielded info., other than an impending loss, on brucellosis or mycoplasma or herpes or distemper, I'd understand. Hopefully, we've got these covered. If there's another good reason to know her progesterone level, please enlighten me. I'm certainly not beyond missing something and I only want to do what is best for my girl.
 
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4ondafloor

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Back to the OP's original request so that I can add:
It's marvelous news Ginny! I hope with all my heart that Jill's litter arrives happy and healthy. I'm very excited for you. She's a beautiful girl and you know I've always been a fan of hers. Everything possible is crossed around here.
 
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Codes

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Fingers, toes, paws and everything else crossed in hopes that all goes well!!

Are you using Whelp Wise this time?
 

Codes

Active member
Awesome!! Karen and her crew are incredible and love what they do.

Lets see, probably 3 weeks from now you'll have your equipment and will be able to hear heartbeats:icon_bb:
 

Windancer

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Ginny..I think you are in the clear after four weeks...for absorption.....good luck on another great litter...
 

Ginny

New member
Thanks all for the good thoughts - keep them coming.

I spoke with the Repro vet who said a reason to continue with the progesterone testing is "peace of mind" and if her level was to drop, consideration could be made to boost it. I'm at peace with my decision, although I do confess that this is not a stress-free venture!
 

noblenewf

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Ginny I am so happy for you and Jilly and I am sending all the prayers and well wishes I can for a healthy pregnancy and litter! Give that beautiful girl a hug from me! xoxo
 
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