Dealing w/nutjobs. :(

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ina/puusty

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The headline news makes it pretty clear..that we have..above and beyond the 5% of actual 'insane and mentally defective to a high degree'..people in any 100..of the population..a decent additional number who are out and about in ..anytown, usa..or around the world probably..on any given day, who are of lesser disability, but nonetheless..disabled. They..truely..walk amoung us. A woman is seen about once every 5 to 8 days..walking through the Albertsons parking lot..yelling and screaming at anyone who comes near..has not attacked anyone..so far as I know..but..in her mid fiftys..at what point will she cause a danger? A lit fuse..walking. Closer into town..a few men..are at liberty..but again..they are walking through the town..without their meds..and have not caused problems other than the unease with which one looks up to see someone talking to an imaginary fellow walker, or their version of god. Recitation of a book can be instead..something as basic as reciting the alphabet or raging at a someone who has 'done them wrong'. Most times it is..babble. In conversation with others who are..seeing one of these people..for the first time..or..have grown accustomed to ..walking Way out..of their way to avoid them..I have had conversation with the people who are..as I am startled. I think I recover quickly..within seconds..whereas..I see others who look..truely shaken..as they then reach their car or head for the bus stop. At about 2:30 am this morning..as I woke up and mused about the Florida kerfluffles..I had one of those 'ah ha'..moments. At age 15 years..my mom came home and found me in tears..because the old woman who had..what we now call dementia..had come down the road, and into our house, wandered around and then left..after calling out my mothers name. She had not yet taken to the wandering nude stage..but 'mentally gone'..she was. That chance encounter scared me deeply..and so..as mother settled me down, after she returned home ( I had gone to hide on the sun porch..not knowing what to do..and being alone in our house)..she began a long..and gentle conversation..which..long story-short..talked about mental elasticity. She talked about the death of my paternal grandmother, and community disasters like 100 year floods and the terrifying barn fire at the Page ranch..when I was 5 yrs old. In one..probably hour long talk..with her leading me through..thinking, about..thinking..she took me forward..to a place in my heart and mind..where..I can 'see'..into the human-world..inside..the ..skin envelope..any person wears-inhabits. I now know..if it is a ..fight or flight time. Most of all..she gave me the feeling of the interior ..Geographys..of the human soul..if you will. When one walks amoung others..human and animals..it is like..the holding on to the combing..as you work your way around a boat..out on the river. There are so many waves..coming/flooding/flowing/ebbing..that there is..perpetual motion..but..as you practise..you..'learn the feel'..of equalibrium. So..I have never needed to march in a group, nor burn a book nor stand up and yell in a meeting. I think..if we all were to teach what..Elasticity..was about..we might well..create a more ..civil society. Kindness..should not be allowed to be burned to a crisp. ina n HB n Kesa
 
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ina/puusty

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Life..is against the rules? As prev. said..I really think..elasticity..is something we should talk about..in school, in homes..anywhere..and everywhere. You and I, face death and earthquake, floods and heat, bills and medical concerns..and we all need that..dancers-balence..that ability to ..flow with the tramaus (sp?) that assail us all. Perhaps you guys have had more peaceful lives..and in that case..how wonderful. I know many..who must..recover from..assorted 'hits'..in life..and that idea of recovering-strength..to..move forward..after a shorter amount of time..and ..to become strong..healed again..is a worthy direction to spend time thinking about. Interesting..indeed..perhaps I should have been a nurse or doctor..rather than a teacher. , ina n HB n Kesa
 

ardeagold

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Ina...once again this is a veiled political post. There ARE some of us who "get it", no matter how wordy it is, or how obscure (obtuse?) it seems.
 

4ondafloor

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Ina...once again this is a veiled political post. There ARE some of us who "get it", no matter how wordy it is, or how obscure (obtuse?) it seems.
I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one that saw the subtle reference.
If it were me posting a veiled politically centered thread, it would have been zapped from the get go!
 

ardeagold

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The problem is that one OTHER person made reference to the political nature of the post and HER post got deleted. Not the OP. Obviously *somebody* didn't get it.
 

4ondafloor

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I hardly think that deleting a comment without warning plays fair. We should all be on an even plane. You know, the VILLAGE and all.
 

Angela

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Ina,

Rules are rules.

If you go to another country you respect their rules. You don't decide to change their rules.

If you go to a forum where certain topics are against the rules, you respect that.
You might not agree with the rules here, but this is GAD's forum and he makes the rules and the majority abide by them.
 

Bluedog

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Wait...Wait...I need to pull up a chair and get comfy.
:new_popcornsmiley: That's better...carry on...
 

ardeagold

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Angela...here's something I don't understand, so I'm going to respectfully, point out a few things, and then ask you a question.

The Original Post (OP from now on) is clearly political in nature, to those of us who live in the US.

A second post was written....giving that posters viewpoints. They were fair, and decent. That post was DELETED...POOF. No comment about why...no anything. No rhyme or reason, that I can see, because.......

Post #3 virtually says the SAME THING...and it's STILL THERE. Of course it's now Post #2 since the other one subjectively disappeared.

So, why is the thread still open? Why didn't IT disappear, versus only one response?

I really don't understand what happened here, at all. It looks as though some people can write whatever they wish (over and over) and yet others posts get "deleted" with no explanation. Can you explain how..or why? Thanks!
 

4ondafloor

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Getting serious again here...
Those wandering the parking lots, the misunderstood, the disorientated, the dregs, have fallen between the cracks. Homeless? More than likely. In need of help and guidance? You bet. I guess my question would then be HOW? Should they be rounded up like cattle and forced on meds to control the outbursts and the wanderlust? Having decisions made for them because they obviously can't think for themselves is and agenda aimed at more than just THEM. Let's tell them where to live, how to live and where they can work. Heck, we ALL better get used to that sooner rather than later because we will all be on the meds before too long.
 
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dannyra

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Getting serious again here...
Those wandering the parking lots, the misunderstood, the disorientated, the dregs, have fallen between the cracks. Homeless? More than likely. In need of help and guidance? You bet. I guess my question would then be HOW? Should they be rounded up like cattle and forced on meds to control the outbursts and the wanderlust? Having decisions made for them because they obviously can't think for themselves is and agenda aimed at more than just THEM. Let's tell them where to live, how to live and where they can work. Heck, we ALL better get used to that sooner rather than later because we will all be on the meds before too long.
Post of the year??:alc::icon_bb::icon_bb:
 

ardeagold

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Getting serious again here...
Those wandering the parking lots, the misunderstood, the disorientated, the dregs, have fallen between the cracks. Homeless? More than likely. In need of help and guidance? You bet. I guess my question would then be HOW? Should they be rounded up like cattle and forced on meds to control the outbursts and the wanderlust? Having decisions made for them because they obviously can't think for themselves is and agenda aimed at more than just THEM. Let's tell them where to live, how to live and where they can work. Heck, we ALL better get used to that sooner rather than later because we will all be on the meds before too long.
You forgot sterilization. That's part of the plan too, isn't it?
 

Angela

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Angela...here's something I don't understand, so I'm going to respectfully, point out a few things, and then ask you a question.

The Original Post (OP from now on) is clearly political in nature, to those of us who live in the US.

A second post was written....giving that posters viewpoints. They were fair, and decent. That post was DELETED...POOF. No comment about why...no anything. No rhyme or reason, that I can see, because.......

Post #3 virtually says the SAME THING...and it's STILL THERE. Of course it's now Post #2 since the other one subjectively disappeared.

So, why is the thread still open? Why didn't IT disappear, versus only one response?

I really don't understand what happened here, at all. It looks as though some people can write whatever they wish (over and over) and yet others posts get "deleted" with no explanation. Can you explain how..or why? Thanks!
I can't answer your question Donna because GAD had already deleted the post before I saw Ina's thread. So I didn't know the content of it.
I didn't know until the other Donna pointed it out that one could still click on the link to view the deleted thread!!
I don't know why GAD didn't delete the 3rd or now 2nd thread.
 
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