Breeding Landseer to Pure

[ellesmom]

Well, just for a bit of common info. In Elle's breading the dam, Stargazer's Zoe, was a landseer, and they mated her to Whidbey's Bubbalicious Bear who was black with a landseer recessive. They had five blacks (three girls and two boys), and four landseers (three boys and one girl, Elle). The coloring on all came out pretty standard with little or no ticking in the landseers. I only saw that Elle had any ticking when the groomer shaved her (against my wishes). Anyway, when I saw my poor baby I cried. Her hair grew back and now we can't see anymore ticking.
By the by, Emmett is gorgeous!

Ellesmom

 

[BearMommy]

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Emmett! What a beautiful animal! I love how he stands - his profile, his color distribution.....have I gushed enough?

Bear - gray with white toe-tips and an hourglass spot on his chest.

 

[FuzzyDustBunnies]

All this is WAY over my head, but very interesting. My question is what is Owen? He's all black with white on his chin, chest, bottom of his neck (where the collar hits) and he has white between his pads. Mom was black(but she also has white on her chin), Dad was landseer....all the recessive stuff I have no idea.

So...technically speaking...what is he?

 

[sarnewfie]

I told emmett all the compliments he is getting and he took a bow and gracefully accepted them! LOL
ROM gotta get to your link, will do that in a bit, i am interested to see what you got in that litter,
Fuzzy
go to the NCA website, i believe they have the patterns where white is acceptable on a black dog, tip of tail, tips of toes, bit on the chest, and i am not sure the chin, but your boy is young yet, that may disapear.
Ellesmom!
wow!
i bet you were fuming!
always make sure you tell them DO NOT SHAVE MY DOG
all i want is a bath and blow off with a HV dryer and trim feet and privates and ears,
even write it down on a piece of paper so there is no excuse!!!!!

 

[afreas]

OK dumb question here. Anyone have any info on when and why the Irish Spotting became a mismark? Kind of scratching my head on that.
ART

 

[janices]

NewfDad, if you go to the NCA website and look at the illustrated guide you can see what is considered acceptable and what is not considered. I'm trying to do 2 things at once right now (logged into work) or else I'd download it.

FuzzyDustBunnies, I think what your newf is doesn't matter. Black can have a certain amount of white on them.

 

[afreas]

I understand what patterns are unacceptable, but just don't get the why. Or do they just like to make it difficult .
ART

 

[janices]

Somebody who's been an NCA member longer than I would have to supply the why. FCI standard does not allow gray, and I think Canada only allows white and black or black. I remember something about trying to disqualify gray in America but didn't happen.

 

[afreas]

I think I finally figured it out. The same folks that set the standard for lawns and gardens set the newf color standards.

Lawn and Garden Standards.
Grows well and Low Maintenance = Weeds
Dies if the wind blows the wrong way = Lawn

Newf Color Standards.
Easy to Breed for and looks good = Mismark
Difficult to keep pure = Standard.



ART

 

[alexmaddy]

Newf Dad -- Brilliant conclusion!

This really made me giggle. Especially since I am not a breeder, and owned by a beautiful girl who is technically a "mismark."

 

[Jenn]

Ok now this explains it all for me- whew!

I posted Baoths pics with his Irish Spotting (I guess I know what to call it now) and wondered at his unusual markings and stumbled across this posting.

Yeah yeah yeah!

 

[Khiori]

D'oh. Irish Spotting not Irish Ticking. lol, it's Monday. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

*note - this only makes sense if you've read the thread in the Photo forum about Jenn's pup