thanks Jeannie,my dad said he can make it,do you know where to buy it?After doing research it has to be just the right blend or it is ineffective for canine use.Amazing the stuff that is out there that helps and I think it all should be common knowledge and available to us all.Sure do get tired of some vets handing out pills,and saying shes too old or theres nothing else we can do....sigh!!!sorry needed to vent...ooopsy!!!Erika